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    bobzilla

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    Well my youngest has been ill a few days. She finally got a home test and was positive. She went in to the doc and was still positive. She has lost her sense of smell and taste, coughing, a little nausea, aches and pains.

    Wife has the cough, aches and nausea. She goes in to be tested today. They both live in the same house as I do.

    Kid got one vax shot, had a reaction and didn't take the other per doc orders. Wife and I have no vax.

    I have the same cough that my allergies give me. I am sore today but I feel confident that is because of all the drywall I moved yesterday.

    I take D3, C, K2, OTC allergy and a multi vitamin that has some Zinc in it. Was doing this before the bug was a known thing.

    We are staying in separate parts of the house and wipe down anything that they touch if I have to use it. I am sure I will get it, but I am hoping to hold off until I get more done on the current job I am on.
     

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    The Telegraph reports on the comments of Dr Alina Chan, a specialist in gene therapy and cell engineering at MIT and Harvard, who was speaking to the Science and Technology Select Committee.

    “I think the lab origin is more likely than not. Right now it’s not safe for people who know about the origin of the pandemic to come forward. But we live in an era where there is so much information being stored that it will eventually come out,” said Dr. Chan.

    “We have heard from many top virologists that a genetically engineered origin is reasonable and that includes virologists who made modifications to the first Sars virus,” she added.

    “We know this virus has a unique feature, called the furin cleavage site, and without this feature there is no way this would be causing this pandemic.”

    “A proposal was leaked showing that EcoHealth and the Wuhan Institute of Virology were developing a pipeline for inserting novel furin cleavage sites. So, you find these scientists who said in early 2018 ‘I’m going to put horns on horses’ and at the end of 2019 a unicorn turns up in Wuhan city.”
     

    oze

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    Ok, I'm not as smart as I thought I was. How come there aren't any dead/weakend virus vaccinations for covid as has been the case for so many virus-caused diseases for decades?

    I'm not anti-vax, but I am vehemently anti-mandate. I do think that RNA (and even DNA) manipulation using CRISPR will someday be the magic bullet for curing many diseases; who knows, maybe even some types of cancer. But not yet. In terms of readiness to perform manipulations on a genetic level on humans, we are apes who found an alien spaceship. We have a lot to learn before we are ready to fly it. IMO, of course.

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    Keith_Indy

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    Ok, I'm not as smart as I thought I was. How come there aren't any dead/weakend virus vaccinations for covid as has been the case for so many virus-caused diseases for decades?

    I'm not anti-vax, but I am vehemently anti-mandate. I do think that RNA (and even DNA) manipulation using CRISPR will someday be the magic bullet for curing many diseases; who knows, maybe even some types of cancer. But not yet. In terms of readiness to perform manipulations on a genetic level on humans, we are apes who found an alien spaceship. We have a lot to learn before we are ready to fly it. IMO, of course.

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    From some quick reading it looks like those types of vaccines are going through longer trials in developed countries, than the mRNA vaccines were.
     

    BugI02

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    Isn't that how the Johnson & Johnson vaccine works?
    As I understand it, not a weakened WuVid virus but some antigens from WuVid inserted into a more benign attenuated virus. Immune system cuts both to pieces and makes antibodies to the pieces, some of which are WuVid spike protein fragments, thus causing the desired immune response
     

    nonobaddog

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    As I understand it, not a weakened WuVid virus but some antigens from WuVid inserted into a more benign attenuated virus. Immune system cuts both to pieces and makes antibodies to the pieces, some of which are WuVid spike protein fragments, thus causing the desired immune response
    Exactly. Using an adenovirus vector so no mRNA involved at all.
     

    BugI02

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    Exactly. Using an adenovirus vector so no mRNA involved at all.
    I thought when oze asked about dead/weakened virus vaccinations he was referring to the more traditional vaccines that utilizing an attenuated version of the actual disease causing organism. The J&J still inserts the targeted fragments into the adenovirus using recombinant techniques, so it is still a Franken-organism
     

    nonobaddog

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    I thought when oze asked about dead/weakened virus vaccinations he was referring to the more traditional vaccines that utilizing an attenuated version of the actual disease causing organism. The J&J still inserts the targeted fragments into the adenovirus using recombinant techniques, so it is still a Franken-organism
    Yes, there is a difference there.
    It all depends on what you call a 'traditional' vaccine. The vaccine types that have been used before wuhu came along are Inactivated(dead) virus vaccines, Attenuated virus vaccines, Protein vaccines, Viral vector vaccines. These could all be called traditional vaccine types.
    The Johnson vaccine is a Viral vector vaccine like the one used for ebola.
    The mRNA vaccines are the new ones that don't qualify as traditional vaccines.
     

    oze

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    I thought when oze asked about dead/weakened virus vaccinations he was referring to the more traditional vaccines that utilizing an attenuated version of the actual disease causing organism. The J&J still inserts the targeted fragments into the adenovirus using recombinant techniques, so it is still a Franken-organism
    That's exactly what I meant, Bug. I would be much more amenable to accepting that than I would be to modified mRNA.

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    MCgrease08

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    Elizabeth Warren has the Wu-Flu. It's a breakthrough case as she's double jabbed and boostered. Apparently her symptoms are mild. Fortunately if they get worse, she can go see the local Medicine Man.

     
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