Well, you're retired now, so maybe Mary Kay might be a good retirement gig!Oh no.
What WILL I do?
Well, you're retired now, so maybe Mary Kay might be a good retirement gig!Oh no.
What WILL I do?
I think that surpasses my worst day at my non-union job.And deaths happen, because heavy industry is dangerous.
Watched the company bring in a contractor, because the union deemed the job to be dangerous, and against the companies own rules.
The contractor then lived long enough to be burned alive by the liquid iron that broke through and engulfed him and his bulldozer.
Well, you're retired now, so maybe Mary Kay might be a good retirement gig!
Big machinery, gases, enough electricity to power a city, and high temps make for a fun environment.I think that surpasses my worst day at my non-union job.
Burning to death and drowning are probably my two most feared ways of dying. And damn, you chose both of your careers where those were possibilities.Big machinery, gases, enough electricity to power a city, and high temps make for a fun environment.
I think burning to death was my least favorite option.
And quasi criminal, can apply to so many organizations.
Wut? I don't think anyone here has said such a thing. I've seen people still talked into making a stupid decision.Again, because there are no union fatalities right?
No. It really can't. If those who lead your organization are corrupt, then your organization is corrupt. It is a statistical impossibility for every major union to have systemic criminal activity unless the organizations themselves are at their core criminal enterprises.
You can waffle, hedge, or obfuscate, but at the end of the day you are part of an organization that is in part run by organized crime, actively engages in fraud, theft and, at times, violent crime, and supports those that seek to undermine our constitution.
Wut? I don't think anyone here has said such a thing. I've seen people still talked into making a stupid decision.
Damn, now I feel like an old school gangsta.No. It really can't. If those who lead your organization are corrupt, then your organization is corrupt. It is a statistical impossibility for every major union to have systemic criminal activity unless the organizations themselves are at their core criminal enterprises.
You can waffle, hedge, or obfuscate, but at the end of the day you are part of an organization that is in part run by organized crime, actively engages in fraud, theft and, at times, violent crime, and supports those that seek to undermine our constitution.
Burning to death and drowning are probably my two most feared ways of dying. And damn, you chose both of your careers where those were possibilities.
Damn, now I feel like an old school gangsta.
Off to buy a new zoot suit.
Oh. Well that's comforting.Most likely, you won't drown on a sub.
If it goes down, and the water breaks in, it will come in so fast it will impact like a brick wall, and crush you.
Oh for sure. But that's not on the company. Well I guess some of it could be. I've seen that mentality in some of the older guys, because that's how we used to do it back in the day.I've seen a lot of safety disregarded, because it's easier to.
Or, because "I've done this before"
It's gotta have a reet pleat!Damn, now I feel like an old school gangsta.
Off to buy a new zoot suit.
Oh for sure. But that's not on the company. Well I guess some of it could be. I've seen that mentality in some of the older guys, because that's how we used to do it back in the day.
You can't fool proof everything, it is still a dangerous environment.
I wish we had a safety dept.Funny things that just popped in my head.
We had something like 4 managers go into some equipment that was not locked out.
Safety came in, and gave EVERY ONE of the managers time off.
The managers came back VERY angry.
Which is funny, because they'd have written up an employee for doing exactly the same thing.
Also, watched a safety engineer get fired, for breaking the safety rules.
He did not notify the on site manager that he was there.
He then boarded an offline EOT crane, so that he could look down and find people breaking rules.
He broke rules by not notifying management that he was on the crane, AND he did not switch the status lights to signal "offline but occupied. Do NOT push".
You all jump the shark a lot.Many non-union companies still offer a pension. My wife has one in fact. If you think that this is strictly a union perk then I would respectfully say that you aren’t qualified to opine on this topic. And that’s not counting a 401k which nearly all non entry level jobs offer today, and even some entry level ones.
As far as criminal, you can scoff, but you do realize that the department of justice has a specific division devoted just to labor unions. This isn't ancient history either. The UAW, Teamsters, longshoremen, IBEW, and the rest have all had leaders convicted or enter guilty pleas very recently.
As above, if you are going to take the position that unions have not been infiltrated by organized crime then you are no student of history.