HE SEES THROUGH ME!
It's that streak-free shine that gave you away.
HE SEES THROUGH ME!
It's that streak-free shine that gave you away.
...I am not aware of anyone becoming the victim of an ND or AD (more terminology of convenience, eh) or victimizing another while obeying all four of Jeff Cooper's 'suggestions' but I'm aware of plenty of people shot with 'unloaded' firearms.
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Look, if old busted "rule #1" had been successful, we wouldn't even be discussing it, would we?
It wasn't. Attempts to reword it just make it an even more dangerous implication.
Let it go, folks. Let it slip from history as the well-intended failure it was.
Safe gun handling has long since been corrected with real safe gun handling rules, very simple rules which never fail, rules without qualifiers, rules for handling guns.
Let your loaded/unloaded mental exercises be disconnected from safe gun handling rules once and for all. The consequence of maintaining that connection is just too severe.
One of these things is not like the others - so simple, even an engineer should be able to figure it out.
Anyhoo,
Who's this hot gun store chick I've heard so much about? We still talking about her? I sure was surprised to hear that any female, let alone blonde, could master the basics of safe gun handling.
...Anything beyond that is just window-dressing.
Blessings,
Bill
About 18-months ago, I stopped in a LGS that I frequent several times a year. As I was looking at the goodies, I noticed 2 young guys at the counter handling a NIB Taurus. Judging the way they were handling the gun, neither had any business owning a firearm. I noticed the shop owner behind the counter apparently running the 4473 on the gentleman purchasing the Taurus.
A few minutes later, the purchaser picks up the gun and with his right arm extended, starts waving and pointing the gun at random in what I would call the "gang style posture". He then proceeded to point the gun directly at me while telling his buddy, "Check this out".
Now I'm a pretty calm guy but this didn't set well with me for obvious reasons. I politely but firmly asked the young guy to "refrain from pointing the gun in my direction". The guy didn't like my request and responded with "What's your problem old man? It aen't loaded". I explained to him that a gun is always presumed to be loaded and should never be pointed at anyone. Guy didn't like my comment but did put the gun back in the box.
LGS owner saw the whole thing and started hustling to get the guy out of the store. After he left, I ripped on the LGS owner a new one. Owner stated he passed the 4473 and he couldn't stop him from purchasing the Taurus. I told the owner I can stop purchasing from his store and walked out. Never have been back and never will.
Not new guns. Guns customers carried into the store loaded but "unloaded".Where is the picture of JetGirl's jar full of live rounds found in new guns in the store that theoretically have never been loaded, nor should have been, when you need it?
Rule of argumentation: The smaller the difference in positions, the more emphatically people will argue the point.
I've been in Point Blank Carmel twice in the last week and a half. Booth times to go shoot with a friend. The lack of awareness behind the counter kind of bothered me.
First time, a lady behind the rental counter took a returned rental, pointed it down about 45 degrees and pulled the trigger to drop the hammer. The problem I had, was my buddy and I were standing directly on the other side of the counter where she pointed it. She just turned, pointed, pulled the trigger, and went back to what she was doing.
Second time, guy behind be rental counter swept 1/2 the counter with the AR he was getting down off the rack. He did manage to get it pointed in a safer direction before handing it to the guy who was renting it (didn't really make me fell any better).
Oh, and when I was done shooting and leaving the range there was some idiot outside of his lane, at one of the little tables, with his pistol out checking to make sure it was clear (or something). That stuff needs to be done on the firing line, with your pistol pointed down range, not 180 degrees the opposite direction pointed at the window out into the store.
It's a nice place, but I haven't been impressed with some of the firearm handling skills there. But of course, my friends want to go back, I'm going to introduce them to MCF&G.
I've been in Point Blank Carmel twice in the last week and a half. Booth times to go shoot with a friend. The lack of awareness behind the counter kind of bothered me.
First time, a lady behind the rental counter took a returned rental, pointed it down about 45 degrees and pulled the trigger to drop the hammer. The problem I had, was my buddy and I were standing directly on the other side of the counter where she pointed it. She just turned, pointed, pulled the trigger, and went back to what she was doing.
Second time, guy behind be rental counter swept 1/2 the counter with the AR he was getting down off the rack. He did manage to get it pointed in a safer direction before handing it to the guy who was renting it (didn't really make me fell any better).
Oh, and when I was done shooting and leaving the range there was some idiot outside of his lane, at one of the little tables, with his pistol out checking to make sure it was clear (or something). That stuff needs to be done on the firing line, with your pistol pointed down range, not 180 degrees the opposite direction pointed at the window out into the store.
It's a nice place, but I haven't been impressed with some of the firearm handling skills there. But of course, my friends want to go back, I'm going to introduce them to MCF&G.
Look, if old busted "rule #1" had been successful, we wouldn't even be discussing it, would we?
It wasn't. Attempts to reword it just make it an even more dangerous implication.
Let it go, folks. Let it slip from history as the well-intended failure it was.
Safe gun handling has long since been corrected with real safe gun handling rules, very simple rules which never fail, rules without qualifiers, rules for handling guns.
Let your loaded/unloaded mental exercises be disconnected from safe gun handling rules once and for all. The consequence of maintaining that connection is just too severe.
One of these things is not like the others - so simple, even an engineer should be able to figure it out.
We all started out as newbies at one point. Today, most new gun buyers weren't given basic instructions from someone they know, often a relative, as many of us lucky folks. They go at it cold and have no inkling of gun handling except what they got in the movies, tv or video games. Maybe instead of criticizing the unwashed, we should find a solution to the problem, because it isn't likely to get any better.
About 18-months ago, I stopped in a LGS that I frequent several times a year. As I was looking at the goodies, I noticed 2 young guys at the counter handling a NIB Taurus. Judging the way they were handling the gun, neither had any business owning a firearm. I noticed the shop owner behind the counter apparently running the 4473 on the gentleman purchasing the Taurus.
A few minutes later, the purchaser picks up the gun and with his right arm extended, starts waving and pointing the gun at random in what I would call the "gang style posture". He then proceeded to point the gun directly at me while telling his buddy, "Check this out".
Now I'm a pretty calm guy but this didn't set well with me for obvious reasons. I politely but firmly asked the young guy to "refrain from pointing the gun in my direction". The guy didn't like my request and responded with "What's your problem old man? It aen't loaded". I explained to him that a gun is always presumed to be loaded and should never be pointed at anyone. Guy didn't like my comment but did put the gun back in the box.
LGS owner saw the whole thing and started hustling to get the guy out of the store. After he left, I ripped on the LGS owner a new one. Owner stated he passed the 4473 and he couldn't stop him from purchasing the Taurus. I told the owner I can stop purchasing from his store and walked out. Never have been back and never will.