A Lefty Mob Trespassed on Their Property

[foszoe]

Why doesn't the "silent majority" offer assistance?

McCloskeys Threatened with Another Attack; Police, Private Security Decline to Help

 

[foszoe]

So it's to "protect and serve <insert qualifying statement here>"?

A little respect goes a long way.

 

[chipbennett]

You make a career out of defending scumbags against the police, don't be surprised when the police won't help.

When Mayor Buttigieg threw the South Bend Police under the proverbial bus after the multiple time violent convicted felon, Eric Logan, was killed while trying to stab a SBPD officer, he wanted a police officer outside his home, because he was afraid of the protestors that he encouraged. Every. Single. Police Department they contacted to provide an officer refused to send anyone. It didn't matter what he would have paid. No one was willing to do it.

You make your name by slandering cops, cops don't forget.

Seems like this response by the police proves him right, or at least, weighs heavily in his favor.

 

[churchmouse]

Seems like this response by the police proves him right, or at least, weighs heavily in his favor.

Put yourselves in the same position. All of us.
Example......that bat crazy X girl friend or the friend you know will park a bus on you at the 1st opportunity.....do you return the calls. Maybe a poor example but along the same lines. If you full well know you are stepping into a fresh steaming pile of as soon as you respond........do you still get out of the car.

This is a no win for all LEO involved. What would you do. There has to be a go/no go line for everyone. Whats yours.

 

[chipbennett]

Put yourselves in the same position. All of us.
Example......that bat crazy X girl friend or the friend you know will park a bus on you at the 1st opportunity.....do you return the calls. Maybe a poor example but along the same lines. If you full well know you are stepping into a fresh steaming pile of as soon as you respond........do you still get out of the car.

This is a no win for all LEO involved. What would you do. There has to be a go/no go line for everyone. Whats yours.

The reason that we give so much respect and honor to police officers is because they, of their own volition, choose to enter a career that involves running toward danger. Police have earned and deserve that respect and honor.

But that doesn't mean that they get a pass for abdicating the responsibility for which taxpayers pay for their employment. Just because the victim in question is an (allegedly) ambulance-chasing lawyer who has represented clients in lawsuits against alleged police wrongdoing doesn't justify the police choosing not to respond when that victim has legitimate threats against him, his family, and his home.

Of course, as we well-know, thanks to Castle Rock v Gonzales and other precedents, police are under no obligation to provide specific protection to specific victims against specific threats. So, it really does become, "To Protect and Serve [when we feel like it]".

Edited to add:

I'm not LEO. My go/no-go line is different from the LEO go/no-go line, which is what is what I'm discussing.

 

[churchmouse]

The reason that we give so much respect and honor to police officers is because they, of their own volition, choose to enter a career that involves running toward danger. Police have earned and deserve that respect and honor.

But that doesn't mean that they get a pass for abdicating the responsibility for which taxpayers pay for their employment. Just because the victim in question is an (allegedly) ambulance-chasing lawyer who has represented clients in lawsuits against alleged police wrongdoing doesn't justify the police choosing not to respond when that victim has legitimate threats against him, his family, and his home.

Of course, as we well-know, thanks to Castle Rock v Gonzales and other precedents, police are under no obligation to provide specific protection to specific victims against specific threats. So, it really does become, "To Protect and Serve [when we feel like it]".

Edited to add:

I'm not LEO. My go/no-go line is different from the LEO go/no-go line, which is what is what I'm discussing.

Agreed on your premise as that is what we expect from LEO.

"BUT".....even our own Mayer Hoggbreath will throw them to the wolves to cover his waste of oxygen worthless butt. So in the face of that, when those who are supposed to support you and back you while you do their bidding have no more concerns than has been exibited......do you continue to put your self over the line and risk life/limb/future or do you stand back a few steps and let Darwin sort this Ferrell activity out.
I cast no shadows on LEO only the people who are supposed to have their backs and are failing them at every turn.

I know where my personal line is. I also know I have crossed it in certain situations at my own risk.

 

[jedi]

Why doesn't the "silent majority" offer assistance?

Maybe because that st louis couple is not part of the silent majority. They are supporters of the current movement.

I guess I see it this way you neighbor and his live in girlfriend are having a physcial fight in their front yard. Do you go over there and break it up?

 

[chipbennett]

Agreed on your premise as that is what we expect from LEO.

"BUT".....even our own Mayer Hoggbreath will throw them to the wolves to cover his waste of oxygen worthless butt. So in the face of that, when those who are supposed to support you and back you while you do their bidding have no more concerns than has been exibited......do you continue to put your self over the line and risk life/limb/future or do you stand back a few steps and let Darwin sort this Ferrell activity out.
I cast no shadows on LEO only the people who are supposed to have their backs and are failing them at every turn.

I know where my personal line is. I also know I have crossed it in certain situations at my own risk.

I have more understanding for "blue flu" when one of these progressive mayors hypocritically calls for police protection when they are forced to come face-to-face with the very circumstances they have created through their policymaking and virtue signaling - such as the aforementioned instance in South Bend. But this is a private citizen, not an elected official.

 

[foszoe]

to answer your question. No. I've been trying for weeks to figure out this silent majority thing.

Should I take this post to mean that the silent majority believes that if one is not a member, than the silent majority doesn't interfere?

Maybe because that st louis couple is not part of the silent majority. They are supporters of the current movement.

I guess I see it this way you neighbor and his live in girlfriend are having a physcial fight in their front yard. Do you go over there and break it up?

 

[Route 45]

The police have no duty to provide private security to citizens on the taxpayer dime.
The McCloskeys are more than welcome to hire private security for the property if they can find someone to do it.

Of course, on-duty officers should do their jobs regarding the investigation of threats against citizens. That's different from posting a couple of squad cars on a private residence.

 

[MCgrease08]

to answer your question. No. I've been trying for weeks to figure out this silent majority thing.

Should I take this post to mean that the silent majority believes that if one is not a member, than the silent majority doesn't interfere?

I learned in another thread that the preferred response to someone who hasn't held the same beliefs as me since the time of their birth is, "go **** up a rope."

I guess this would be considered an extension of that mindset.

[37] Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. [38] This is the first and great commandment. [39] And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself unless they don't hold the exact same views as you do and have for their entire life. [40] On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Fixed that for you JC.

 

[KellyinAvon]

The police have no duty to provide private security to citizens on the taxpayer dime.
The McCloskeys are more than welcome to hire private security for the property if they can find someone to do it.

Of course, on-duty officers should do their jobs regarding the investigation of threats against citizens. That's different from posting a couple of squad cars on a private residence.

Private security companies wouldn't do it either. (Copy/paste from the Breitbart article goes FUBAR in a hurry.) It said he called "a number" (didn't specify which number) of private security companies, none would take it. Wonder if he called the company whose peeps weren't there when the wrought iron gate got bent in half.

Maybe they could go the CIA route and hire locals to provide security. After all it worked so well at Benghazi in 2012 and at LIMA Site 85 in Laos in 1968.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...tack-police-private-security-decline-to-help/

 

[KG1]

Seems like they are in quite the predicament.

On the one hand the police and private security refuse to help them.

Then on the other side of the coin they are facing prosecution from an over zealous mob placating DA for taking their security in their own hands.

 

[jedi]

Private security companies wouldn't do it either. (Copy/paste from the Breitbart article goes FUBAR in a hurry.) It said he called "a number" (didn't specify which number) of private security companies, none would take it. Wonder if he called the company whose peeps weren't there when the wrought iron gate got bent in half.

Maybe they could go the CIA route and hire locals to provide security. After all it worked so well at Benghazi in 2012 and at LIMA Site 85 in Laos in 1968.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...tack-police-private-security-decline-to-help/

Yahoo news is reporting that a dozen men in plain cloths were walking the coulles grounds today and seen from the balcony as well as the protestors returned. The protestors stayed on the PUBLIC street before leaving.

So guess the couple was able to hire some one.

 

[chipbennett]

Yahoo news is reporting that a dozen men in plain cloths were walking the coulles grounds today and seen from the balcony as well as the protestors returned. The protestors stayed on the PUBLIC street before leaving.

So guess the couple was able to hire some one.

So, if, as all of the trespasser sympathizers asserted, the sidewalks and street in Portland Place are truly public access, why did the protesters not repeat their performance by protesting from the private side of the wall/gate?

 

[CPT Nervous]

The police have no duty to provide private security to citizens on the taxpayer dime.
The McCloskeys are more than welcome to hire private security for the property if they can find someone to do it.

Of course, on-duty officers should do their jobs regarding the investigation of threats against citizens. That's different from posting a couple of squad cars on a private residence.

Beat me to it. The anecdote I shared was officers refusing to work off-duty as private security for someone who tried to advance his political career by railroading police officers.

The situation in St. Louis is similar, but not the same.

 

[JTScribe]

Never mind, found it posted elsewhere.

 

[KellyinAvon]

The Lawn Lawyers coming up on Hannity.

 

[erasure]

And then, the police disarmed them.

McCloskeys served with search warrant, police take rifle shown in viral pictures

 

[churchmouse]

And then, the police disarmed them.

McCloskeys served with search warrant, police take rifle shown in viral pictures

We are lost peoples.