Why I would never CC

[ATM]

A strong defense of your chosen position is great, but this general counteroffensive is a far different creature and will be harder to manage than defending and countering from the high ground.

You already shot yourself in the foot with the title, but good luck.

 

[CPT Nervous]

A strong defense of your chosen position is great, but this general counteroffensive is a far different creature and will be harder to manage than defending and countering from the high ground.

You already shot yourself in the foot with the title, but good luck.

I fully understood the risks when I posted it. I believe that I can defend it, as it is what I hold dear.

Of course, CCers will be (*) by this thread, but, and any toddler can tell you, "They started it."

 

[LP1]

Life is too short to spend it on this argument. Going to another thread.

 

[threefiftyfour]

I agree with everything that has been posted in this thread all of the time. Thank you and good night.

 

[blamecharles]

A strong defense of your chosen position is great, but this general counteroffensive is a far different creature and will be harder to manage than defending and countering from the high ground.

You already shot yourself in the foot with the title, but good luck.

It shall be fun to watch and join in though.

 

[hacksawfg]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0

It seems to me like either side (CC'ers or OC'ers) calling the opposing viewpoint's supporters out doesn't really do much as far as providing a united front for advancing gun owners' rights. In a perfect world, OCing shouldn't even be an issue, but unless you can defend your viewpoint to John Q Public in a calm, collected manner don't do it. I don't f---ing care if you want to OC, CC, or not carry at all as long as you're not restricting my rights. If someplace doesn't want to let you OC or isn't supportive of rights, you are certainly entitled to take your business elsewhere - making a scene about it, calling your boss a dickhead for having an opposing view or enforcing company policy does little to win people over though, and creating divisions in the carrying populations doesn't help much either.

 

[CPT Nervous]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0making a scene about it, calling your boss a dickhead for having an opposing view or enforcing company policy does little to win people over though, and creating divisions in the carrying populations doesn't help much either.

Point taken. Still think he's a dickhead, since he doesn't have a real reason to not let me carry. That's why I never asked. I carried for about a year before they found out. I still carry. They want my guns, they can MOLON LABE.

 

[Classic Liberal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0

It seems to me like either side (CC'ers or OC'ers) calling the opposing viewpoint's supporters out doesn't really do much as far as providing a united front for advancing gun owners' rights. In a perfect world, OCing shouldn't even be an issue, but unless you can defend your viewpoint to John Q Public in a calm, collected manner don't do it. I don't f---ing care if you want to OC, CC, or not carry at all as long as you're not restricting my rights. If someplace doesn't want to let you OC or isn't supportive of rights, you are certainly entitled to take your business elsewhere - making a scene about it, calling your boss a dickhead for having an opposing view or enforcing company policy does little to win people over though, and creating divisions in the carrying populations doesn't help much either.

We can NEVER be united on the gun front, as we have a presidential candidate that has a terrible history on his gun views, yet we have people here that support the 2nd Amendment right and intend to vote for the douche.

 

[CPT Nervous]

We can NEVER be united on the gun front, as we have a presidential candidate that has a terrible history on his gun views, yet we have people here that support the 2nd Amendment right and intend to vote for the douche.

Right.

Any man willing to sacrifice freedom for security shall have neither.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Life is too short to spend it on this argument. Going to another thread.

After I posted up a link where OC definitely stopped a robbery about to be in progress you are leaving without even reading it.

Open carry deters armed robbery in Kennesaw - Atlanta gun rights | Examiner.com

 

[9mmfan]

I do both, OC and CC. As I get older the OC tends to win out, especially during this HOT summer. I just don't plain give a da** what anyone thinks about it. In the chillier weather when a light jacket is required, my OC turns into a kind of semi-CC. Not to COVER my gun, but to COVER my arms.
Yes, there are time I still CC; just depends on the situation.

 

[Bunnykid68]

I do both, OC and CC. As I get older the OC tends to win out, especially during this HOT summer. I just don't plain give a da** what anyone thinks about it. In the chillier weather when a light jacket is required, my OC turns into a kind of semi-CC. Not to COVER my gun, but to COVER my arms.
Yes, there are time I still CC; just depends on the situation.

Gets the I just dont give a award for a great post.

 

[Mackey]

This is sad.

 

[Cemetery-man]

Now you went and done it CPT.

Remember, the other thread you refer to was started by an obvious troll stirring the OC/CC pot for his entertainment. Now you being a site supporting, contributing member decides to stir that same pot with an INGO CC community that had nothing to do with that fiasco and with the exception of a couple trolls, stayed away entirely.

Bad taste IMO. XXX

 

[IndySSD]

Wow... A cc vs. Oc thread what an original and thought provoking new idea to debate here.

We need to bring back negative rep.....

Seriously why must we promote this infighting amongst the gun lovers instead of focusing our efforts on the anti's.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Wow... A cc vs. Oc thread what an original and thought provoking new idea to debate here.

We need to bring back negative rep.....

Seriously why must we promote this infighting amongst the gun lovers instead of focusing our efforts on the anti's.

Maybe because some of the CC only people feel the need to bash people who open carry for whatever reason they ¨feel¨ at the time.

 

[joshualee49]

It really is simple math. O/C = C/C. The common denominator is CARRY.

If you carry openly, concealed, fanny pack, jeans back pocket, tube sock, fine. I'm just thankful you are carrying in the first place.

Just please pleASE pLEASE PLEASE keep carrying that way. Fighting over the style of carry is pointless and devisive.

 

[littletommy]

I'll admit I read this thread expecting extreme drama, but there were some excellent points made by both sides. True, they are the same points that have been made repeatedly here, but they are still excellent.

That being said, I will continue to carry as I always have.

 

[Excalibur]

I would like to add about the places that "don't allow guns". As per Indiana Law, places like Malls and movies aren't places where the law says we can't. It's places of businesses that tells us to get out. And yeah, you'll find out right away that MANY places hate guns. So you want a burger? OC at Wendy's and some gets the management to kick you out. Ok, they lose your business, but now you can't eat there. Walk the Mall, then rent-a-cops show up in force to kick you out. Why? Cause they don't like guns there. Sure they lose your business, but now you can't go inside without getting kicked out. So the more places that posts signs and kicks you out for carrying you gun, the less you can go.

Now I know a lot of places don't care, but conceal the gun, in those places. 99% of the time, no one will notice you are carrying. You open carry and everyone will notice and all it'll take is one ******* who calls the cops or get management to kick you out

I used to have a thing against OCing. It gives you more options like clothes so you don't have to get shirts big enough to hide your gun.

People can argue about how people who OC are more of a target to getting their gun taken because they didn't get enough training for when someone makes a grab for your gun, but it CAN happen to someone CCing, but less likely because no one sees your gun.

My personal belief is that I don't have a gun to scare someone. I have a gun to shoot someone.

 

[air6dgo]

[FONT=&quot]Both have their pros and cons seems like primary action would be to exercise your right and carry carry carry. Be confident and proficient in want ever style works best for you.[/FONT]