Titanium_Frost
Grandmaster
Just a joke. I think the general consensus is that the whole thread is kind of a joke and all of these TL;DR posts trying to explain stuff are just wasted breath.
Just a joke. I think the general consensus is that the whole thread is kind of a joke and all of these TL;DR posts trying to explain stuff are just wasted breath.
You might be able to close it in thread tools. (Unless that is just in Classified threads.)
The statement "Why I would NEVER CC" leaves no room for prioritization.
All that means is I will either OC or NOT carry.
Do you understand that? If I mistated the alternatives please tell me.
Then to post that I CC even though I would NEVER CC is contradictory. Do you understand that? That is a contradiction isn't it?
You insinuate that you are incapable of feeding your family if you don't work where you work now. I give you more credit than that, I think you are smart enough to retrain yourself and switch fields if necessary. May you lose income? possibly but I doubt you will starve. Perhaps you can't do it tomorrow but it's not an impossibility.
However, if you want to prioritize principles, then don't use the word never.
I know what you're saying and it's ridiculous.That's what I am saying.
Personally I don't agree with either of these. I know several guys with enough "balls" to do whatever they want but simply choose not to OC.
As to your first point do you have anything besides your own unsupported opinion to back it up? I know I have lots of counterpoints. In fact, I wonder how in fact people who never have OCed know so much about it and how people react to it?
I never said that I didn't make a decision. I didn't start this thread entitled "Why I would never CC", a person who later admitted to often CCing to work did.
You stated that I can chose where I work just like I can chose where I do business. You seem to miss that fact that one if nearly effortless, and the other requires almost complete destruction of ones life. You say that choosing between OC'ing at work and putting food on the table is a false dichotomy.
If I chose to get a job where I could OC, I would take a minimum of a $40k pay cut. Unless there are other advanced computer programmer jobs out there that allow OC. I have not seen them, having been associated with this industry for 2 decades and working in it full time for 15 years.
It is NOT a false dichotomy to say that I either CC or I don't put food on my table. Hell, a $40k income lost and I don't have my table anymore or my house.
Dichotomy - Splitting things into two non-overlapping parts.
I guess if you consider losing my home, selling our cars, selling the tools that I will not have space to own anymore, as not really changing. Then sure, it is a false dichotomy. But I don't see it that way.
I believe that you have to choose between the choices that you have at the time. Future choices aren't choices because you can't guarantee they'll materialize. So while it's theoretically possible someone could continue to seek employment at a job where the RKBA is respected, he does at the cost of putting food on his table by not taking the job offered at the time.
If you're only offered one job (or only jobs that prohibit RKBA at work), there ARE only two alternatives. Of course, NOT putting food on the table and waiting for a job that allows RKBA is technically a choice. But that's where th e prioritization comes in. See how that works?
Strictly speaking, yes. But when it comes to feeding one's family as a highest priority, no, there may not be.
I want to buy some Chinese tea. Do you happen to know the price?
I understand that you took the comment WAAAAAAAY too literally. Context is everything. And so is timing. Coming off the OC boondoggle by matt-what's-his-number sorta should have been the big clue that it wasn't meant literally
Do you understand hyperbole?
Generalization must not be in your vocabulary.
do NOT insinuate that one is incapable of feeding one's family if one doesn't remain employed at his current locale. However, I do explicitly state that when faced the the IMMEDIATE option of choosing that particular employment or retaining the right to carry at the place, many will choose the employment because the IMMEDIATE need to feed one's family.
No one is saying (and a careful reading of my previous post will show that I actually addressed this point) that one could never find employment that allowed carry. But the opportunity cost of doing so is necessarily not feeding one's family.
You're no fun at parties, are you?
You know what I find funny? The guy who is finding fault with an absolute (that wasn't meant literally), makes one himself. How was it you phrased it? Do you understand that you can prioritize and still use the word 'never?'
I know what you're saying and it's ridiculous.
You're still at it? What exactly are you trying to prove? If you were following this, you would know it's hyperbolic. If you knew me, you would know that this thread was largely in jest. What is it you do? Read threads and post your disapproval on word usage?
Many things I do at work, I don't do in my personal life. CC is one of those things. It's part of a job.
Also, I would rather lose my job than my life. If I need my gun at work, I'd rather have it.
I don't get why you're so persistent with this. Why is this such an issue? I exaggerated a point. Big deal. Stop whining about it.
I've never seen someone as persistently irritating as you. You always take things too far and **** everyone off. I never intended for this thread to become a debate on principles.
See what I did there?
You want me to rename the thread?
How about;
Reasons why I never CC. Actually, I do CC. Only at work. I don't count that, though, because it isn't my personal time, but some people do, so I guess you could say that yes, I do CC. But, I only CC at work. There's a clear distinction. So, actually, these are reasons that I don't CC outside of work, because, I do CC at work, but never when I'm not at work, such as when I'm home, or running errands, or just hanging out with my friends.
Would that be better? Did you report this thread to a mod? If the title bothers you so much, report it, and see if you can get it changed. Of course, the mods understand that it is hyperbolic, so they won't change it.
No, bobzilla. We're not arguing. Get with the program.