when will the ammo shortage end??

[U.S. Patriot]

How hard is it to understand, that it's do to panic buying? Just like before a storm when everyone decides they need milk, bread, and toilet paper, and shelves become empty. The Government creates panic, people can't find ammo, the Government wins. Guns are useless without ammo. It's in itself gun control. Not my fault people are not intelligent enough to not fall on every whim of the Government.

 

[jamil]

It can not be people hoarding everything, There are to many manufactures out there to run short by just everyday shooters, and hunters. I watched a video on how they make CCI ammo, they make 4,000,000 Thats MILLION rounds a day, just in CCI mini mags, how many different kinds of CCI do they make? 7? 8? 9?, how many manufactures are there for .22 cal ? how many different manufactures are there that make .223? There are shipping it in from Russia, China, plus what ever America makes, same with .9 MM Where is it all going? I went to Dunnums today and all the got in was .40 cal and .9 mm, NO .22 NO .223 , NO 7.56 Its got to be the government buying it up. Yeah, you can buy it at Gander Mountain MOST of the time,IF you want to get there at 5:00 AM and stand in line for 4 hours and wait till they open, BUT not everyone can do that, Some people ( like me ) have to work for a living.

It's not people "hoarding". But it's not the government buying it up either. So with CCI able to make millions of rounds of .22LR per day, how many rounds of that does the government buy? They're buying 9mm/.40/5.56. And, they haven't received any more this year than they have last. As satisfying as black helicopters are, that's just a fantasy.

It started with panic buying where people bought up the entire supply of ammo on store shelves everywhere. It's going to take some time to build that supply back up, but people keep buying up whatever's coming in.

 

[GBolt]

It has to be tempting to dealers, debating on putting a scarce commodity on the shelves in the store for little profit vs. selling online via auction at a much greater markup.

 

[jamil]

One way to stop the douche-bag gougers would be that every retailer that sells ammo enact a Limit of 1 on bulk packs and cases and 2-3 box limit on everything else. That would sure put an end to that and probably allow ammo to stay on the shelves.

Hmm. Walmart has a 3 box limit. GM, Cabellas, have similar limits. Exactly where can you buy unlimited quantities of ammo from the main suppliers of ammo? I think the way to stop it is for EVERYONE to charge market value for ammo.

If you wait in line at your local big box store you MIGHT be able to score a box or two of popular ammo at a reasonable price. But look around at some of those people in line with you competing for the same stuff.

For some of them, this may be their 7th time in line today. Maybe it's Bubba come to spend his unemployment check buying up ammo so he can tripple his money on gunbroker. Maybe there's 15 guys who work at Jimbob's Gun Emporium buying up stock to sell at their shop at a descent markup. Maybe it's Joe from Joe's Shooting Range and Eatery looking to buy up some something for people to shoot at his range.

I wouldn't blame any of them for doing that because they can. If it's available at far less than market value, why wouldn't they? Since he's unemployed anyway, Bubba has nothing better to do than make 30 trips a day buying up ammo wherever he can find it.

Sometimes I luck out and find some 9mm at WM for $13.97/box that Bubba missed. It beats paying $30. As far as I'm concerned it's sitting on the shelf for $30. And that's the point.

If every store including WM would charge $30 or whatever the true market value is, then Bubba would leave it there too. So would Jimbob, so would Joe. When enough ammo sits on the shelf at $30 long enough, WM will lower the price until it reaches the point where it starts moving off the shelf.

As I said earlier, I do admire these stores for the thought. Trying to keep prices "normal" is a commendable sentiment, but I think it's prolonging the return of the market to equilibrium. They should charge its market value.

 

[Turn Key]

Here is a good read on the ammo situation:

Ammunition Bubble timeline and prediction. (Specifically .22lr) - THR

TK

 

[elaw555]

When the greed ends, the shortage ends. This applies to ammo, AR's, etc.

 

[mdm2272]

You can bet I'm leaving that 2X the price stuff on the shelves. One nice thing about living in a small town is that Walmart doesn't run out of ammo in 5 min.

 

[warthog]

The "Panic" has ended some time ago. This will end when people wise up and stop buying everything they can get their hands on whenever they see a round on a shelf. That and when people stop rewarding the people who sell at inflated prices so they can shoot. I completely understand how hard that is, you have a new gun and you really want to go shoot it. There does come a time when a Big Picture should be seen over then little one of a personal desire to shoot though.

I also know it is easy for me to say. I hand-load and have all the ammo I want to shoot. Not everyone is cut out to hand-load so not everyone should. I've offered to take folks without ammo shooting with my ammo since all of this started and not had a single taker. Maybe others who have could also offer to help out if that isn't too socialist for them. It's all about the Big Picture and whether or not you can find a way to make things easier rather than take it upon yourself to call folks names and make them seem like they are wrong for being a good neighbor.

As for the linked article, I would say he is low, I'd say a brick of 22's will wind up at $35 each rathe than the 20 they were before this crap.
Each bubble comes with an average increase of price of about 20% with this one I will say more like 30% due to its lenght which is easily the longest so far.

 

[bmbutch]

I've heard a few people brag about taking wife, adult kids, etc to each buy their limit. That can add up fast, pending how many people they recruit.

I can wait a bit, especially for 9 & .45acp. For .223/5.56 I've paid up to $8.99 / box of 20, mostly only to sell @ same cost to friends/noobs that do not have any.

 

[kiddchaos]

Looks like manufacturing is starting to catch up, based on ammo sticky posts.

 

[mdm2272]

What cracks me up is some of these gougers that are on some of these firearm Facebook pages. Half of them can't even spell good enough to type out an add. IMO they should sell their ammo at the price they paid and pay for some spelling lessons.

 

[38special]

What cracks me up is some of these gougers that are on some of these firearm Facebook pages. Half of them can't even spell [STRIKE]good [/STRIKE] well enough to type out an [STRIKE]add[/STRIKE] ad. IMO they should sell their ammo at the price they paid and pay for some spelling lessons.

FTFY.

 

[mdm2272]

FTFY.

Thanks

 

[RSW]

FTFY.

I'm laughing my ass of right now.

 

[mdm2272]

Starting to see a lot of Ruger 10/22's coming up for sale. Probably due to the fact that that people can't find ammo for them.

 

[gunman41mag]

The shortage will end when I stop buying ammo

 

[ocsdor]

Those doing the most complaining are those that have done the least preparing. The first shortage in 2008 was your clue to prepare and stock up.

And, if you think this is bad, just wait for the food shortage.

 

[mdm2272]

 

[223 Gunner]

Those doing the most complaining are those that have done the least preparing. The first shortage in 2008 was your clue to prepare and stock up.

And, if you think this is bad, just wait for the food shortage.

Yes, when that happens, we will really see the s##t hit the fan.

Now is the time to be buying water and food! Repeat, the time is now!

 

[wrnyhuise]

Starting to see a lot of Ruger 10/22's coming up for sale. Probably due to the fact that that people can't find ammo for them.

Those folks are more than welcome to head my direction as long as they are not jacking the prices up on the 10/22's. I will gladly take a couple off their hands