Being that the details of a shooting are rarely evident right away, yes. No one has any way of knowing if you are a good guy or a bad guy, and we are advised by our dispatchers not to enter the scene until the police have cleared it. In actuality, we are not allowed to enter the scene until it is safe, otherwise we face disciplinary action. Paramedics and EMTs have no duty to place their lives on the line for public safety.Great so any of us could potentially be in a shoot out, take the bad guy down, but take a couple ourselves and we get stuck with that one scared EMT who won't come near us and we bleed to death.
It is my understanding that it is difficult to get a certification if you have a felony conviction.What if, before becoming an EMT he had a felony conviction? This could get worse and worse.
Being that the details of a shooting are rarely evident right away, yes. No one has any way of knowing if you are a good guy or a bad guy, and we are advised by our dispatchers not to enter the scene until the police have cleared it. In actuality, we are not allowed to enter the scene until it is safe, otherwise we face disciplinary action. Paramedics and EMTs have no duty to place their lives on the line for public safety.
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It is my understanding that it is difficult to get a certification if you have a felony conviction.
You rang?RMabrey is an EMT but he doesn't really post much on INGO anymore. I'll ask him when I run into him at INS.
IMO they just have an officer on scene remove and hold on to your weapon. As long as you have a LTCH You would be fine.
For starters, you cannot become an EMT or Medic if you've been convicted of a felony so that is a moot point. Find me a cop that would arrest an EMS working for illegal possessing YOUR firearm while providing you medical care and ill show you a cop that will be unemployed pretty quickly.Great question! What if you are hurt in the parking lot of a school and the EMT handles your pistol (gun, that is .) He/she would be in possession of a handgun without a license and also in possession on school grounds. What if, before becoming an EMT he had a felony conviction? This could get worse and worse.
None in my experience. PD generally doesn't play around with things like thatNot passing any judgment whatsoever, how many die waiting on a secure scene?
while they test fire it to record ballistic data, then make you dance through hoops to get it back, finally releasing it to you only after you agree to being fingerprinted illegally, then you will get back your roughly treated, fired, rusty gun...#1
If you haven't thanked a medic today, go out and find one and give him/her a big hug. These guys risk some serious **** for little pay and do miraculous things. I am constantly in awe when medics arrive on serious scenes and keep someone together long enough to get them to surgery.
#2 In marion county if you are in an accident, chances are your guns will be released to whatever family member is on the scene or comes to the scene. If you have the ability to talk and wish to release the gun to a friend who has shown up then that'll work too.
If that doesn't happen it will be taken to the property room for safe keeping.
Not passing any judgment whatsoever, how many die waiting on a secure scene?
Not passing any judgment whatsoever, how many die waiting on a secure scene?
In most instances, police arrive first, especially in the case of shootings. We had one last night just around the corner from our station and there were three police officers on scene before we arrived. IMPD is VERY good about making things safe for us and I am deeply appreciative. If I ever have to treat a police officer, he can be assured he will be feeling no pain by the time we reach the hospital. It's the least I can do to show my gratitude.Not passing any judgment whatsoever, how many die waiting on a secure scene?
... If that doesn't happen it will be taken to the property room for safe keeping.
To clarify, I'm a lone ranger. There will be no friends or family at the scene. How long will it take to get my firearms released from the property room?...IIRC doesn't it take months to get your firearms released from Marion County?
Not passing any judgment whatsoever, how many die waiting on a secure scene?
Until someone volunteers to put my children thru college and raise them by my value setbodies can be butt deep to a tall indian and I wont go in til the scene has been made safe
None in my experience. PD generally doesn't play around with things like that
No offense but you wouldn't have any authority or control over that once it is handed over to the police or security at the hospital.Paramedic here... This is how I would handle it. If the gun was discovered in the ambulance enroute and not earlier by LEO, and most times it would be discovered in the ambulance as we are stripping you. I would unload and take possession of your firearm and retain custody until arrival at the ER. I would also look for your LTCH and keep the two together. I would turn both over to security at the hospital. I would also make contact with a family member to advise them of who has and where your firearm is at. I would also make contact with you after the fact to ensure the firearm was returned to you and to offer assistance with getting it returned to you or a family member.
No offense but you wouldn't have any authority or control over that once it is handed over to the police or security at the hospital.
Paramedic here... This is how I would handle it. If the gun was discovered in the ambulance enroute and not earlier by LEO, and most times it would be discovered in the ambulance as we are stripping you. I would unload and take possession of your firearm and retain custody until arrival at the ER. I would also look for your LTCH and keep the two together. I would turn both over to security at the hospital. I would also make contact with a family member to advise them of who has and where your firearm is at. I would also make contact with you after the fact to ensure the firearm was returned to you and to offer assistance with getting it returned to you or a family member.