Well despite the post above(which seems to be a powder issue)They're the only ones that matter.
You have HK and Sig, which matter more
Well despite the post above(which seems to be a powder issue)They're the only ones that matter.
just a bit injured....H&K USP in 40 S&W...was a catastrophic failure to say the least...
read the story here... The Gun Zone -- The USP40 kB!s and AA#5
OUCH! I'm glad I was shooting a metal framed Sig! With gloves on. My only other kaboom was in the mid 80's, and it was also mostly metal gun. M-249 SAW.... talk about apples and oranges! I love my 1911 (even if it's a Taurus), but my M&P .40 is getting most of my full-sized range time these days.
I have been shooting revolvers for about 25 years and never experienced a "kaboom". Is this more of an auto loader problem or am I just lucky so far?
Plenty of revolvers have spontaneously disassembled themselves. Usually after dropping double charges while reloading or firing a bullet down an obstructed barrel.
Good to know. I don't reload so I guess my chances of kabooming are somewhat decreased.
I have been shooting revolvers for about 25 years and never experienced a "kaboom". Is this more of an auto loader problem or am I just lucky so far?
Both are subject to a kaboom.
Luck has a little to do with it. But I would guess following safe practices has more to do with it for you.
I do think auto loaders throw a few issues into the risk that a revolver doesnt. First, thru my experience, if the crimp on a revolver isn't enough and the bullet moves, I have found it usually" walks out " under recoil, not going back into the case possibly creating a drastic pressure issue like a auto loader can do. Secondly, some auto loaders aren't so well supported back by the feed ramp, where as revolvers support that area of the case better. Finally, I do think that since revolvers don't throw their brass everywhere, it's easier to make sure you don't accidently get a case that you don't know the history of. Seems like everytime I go to the range, I come back with a few cases that I don't know where they came from nor how many times they possibly could have been reloaded. If I go to the range with 100 twice loaded starline brass for my Ruger .44 mag, I come home with exactly 100 starline cases.
That's what sets glock kabooms apart. If you shove enough powder in anything it will blow up a fair number of glock kabooms have happened with factory loaded ammunition.
man aint that the truth.if i dropped my 1911 i would be really upset.Drop onto concrete without the owner crying a little bit?
That's the second time on just this page someone has made reference to either a overcharge or double charge. I know basiclly too much powder will cause a kaboom in a heartbeat. But, I do wonder if anyone has any thoughts whether too much powder causes more Kabooms than " bullet-setback ? I ask this because I fear bullet set-back MUCH more than a accidently double charge. With the powders I use, a accident double charge isn't possible ( In my auto loaders, a revolver is a different story). I also verify ea round to make sure it does have a charge.
I just wonder how many times a over charge gets blamed when the catrosropic pressure was caused by the bullet being seated too deep. Once everything had grenaded, I can understand how it would be hard to figure out.
All things being equal. I would own a 1911. Unfortunately, they're not equal, for me anyway. I prefer the 1911 action, but I more prefer a lighter gun for carry.
Just sayin', I got nothin' against Glocks and their operators. However, it's apples and oranges.
The real deal is how many quote "statistics" vs. those who actually put them to test in class, on the range and at a match.
Here is an interesting chart from CCI showing pressure vs bullet seating depth for their .357 Sig round. With the .357 Sig being a higher pressure round, I would have thought that with enough set back it would turn into a grenade, however this graph shows that it never even comes close to the proof pressures.That's the second time on just this page someone has made reference to either a overcharge or double charge. I know basiclly too much powder will cause a kaboom in a heartbeat. But, I do wonder if anyone has any thoughts whether too much powder causes more Kabooms than " bullet-setback ? I ask this because I fear bullet set-back MUCH more than a accidently double charge. With the powders I use, a accident double charge isn't possible ( In my auto loaders, a revolver is a different story). I also verify ea round to make sure it does have a charge.
I just wonder how many times a over charge gets blamed when the catrosropic pressure was caused by the bullet being seated too deep. Once everything had grenaded, I can understand how it would be hard to figure out.
That's the second time on just this page someone has made reference to either a overcharge or double charge. I know basiclly too much powder will cause a kaboom in a heartbeat. But, I do wonder if anyone has any thoughts whether too much powder causes more Kabooms than " bullet-setback ? I ask this because I fear bullet set-back MUCH more than a accidently double charge. With the powders I use, a accident double charge isn't possible ( In my auto loaders, a revolver is a different story). I also verify ea round to make sure it does have a charge.
I just wonder how many times a over charge gets blamed when the catrosropic pressure was caused by the bullet being seated too deep. Once everything had grenaded, I can understand how it would be hard to figure out.