That is very true.Depends on the thread.
That is very true.Depends on the thread.
You have no proof other than stated by enemies of the NRA.Jeez, with all the talk about WLP’s takedown being a NRA takedown, you’d think WLP WAS the NRA, instead of the members being the NRA.
This confusion is as easily resolved as the transgender issue. Males have penises, women have vaginas. The NRA is the membership. WLP was just a corrupt employee, albeit holding up the top spot. So instead of pissing about a corrupt ********er, make the NRA great again.
The proof of corruption comes from the NRA itself. They're asking WLP for the money back.If they don’t get this, they cannot fathom the situation on the ground in the swamp and what it takes to keep the turds in DC from usurping our god given rights. I do not condone it but understand it and recognize it is a needed element of protecting our rights…
You are willing to overlook a lot of things to support leaders you agree with.You have no proof other than stated by enemies of the NRA.
The left made a bunch of well meaning people to burn down the one organization that was dialed in in DC. Unlike most posters here I have invested a chunk of hard earned cash I don’t want to burn down what I invested in. Mark my words here, the NRA will NEVER be what it once was, the members bought the hook line, sinker and sunk the ship.The NRA is the members organization. @Ingomike I'm not sure if you are related to WLP or what but I don't get your defense of him, the NRA needs to move beyond him, he abused his power and that's not what we need. We need to get a board that will strengthen the NRA and make sure there is no corruption and that we are all working together for the strength of the organization to battle the anti 2A groups. It's time to listen to the members, and yes I am a voting member.
And so is your constitutional carry and reciprocity across many states...I paid my $500 in 1993. I got an Assault Weapon Ban the next year, anyway. It is my money, and I am free to do with it as I please. I'm not burning the NRA down. They have $500 of my money. That's gotta be over $1,000 in "today money." If Wayne spent it on suits, instead of stopping the AW ban, that's on him.
Well, I have no proof that he’s a ********er.You have no proof other than stated by enemies of the NRA.
Prove it.And so is your constitutional carry and reciprocity across many states...
WLP was at the State house schmoozing State Senators and Reps?And so is your constitutional carry and reciprocity across many states...
What would it take for WLP to cross a line before the loyal would say, yeah, the NRA is better off without him? For me it’s been crossed.WLP was at the State house schmoozing State Senators and Reps?
We have gained little at the Federal level.
You really are the poster child for loyal to a fault.
And we never will.I don't know fact or fiction about WLP's spending/abuse/corruption.
I would not expect any of us to be best buds with WLP or even like him, none of us run in that crowd.I know that he has always rubbed me the wrong way (that's on me).
This is simply the McDonalds Happy Meal for gun guys. The NRA needs members to show those politicians how strong we are, if it was just life members there wouldn’t be the fear factor there once was. A lot of folks eat that stuff up.I know I started doubting the mission/judgement/efficacy of the NRA when I was a member re-upping my card.
First is was the unnecessary swag....sign up, get a hat/tote/range bag/ knife/tchotchke, etc. I get the marketing idea of exposure thru these items, but who see's them? Other guys at the range, who already know about the NRA. Not the "un-informed public".
What....you're gonna wear your NRA hat, or carry your NRA duffle bag onto a Delta flight?
No red flags there, I'm sure. Hope you like cavity searches.
And who would trust the cheap crap not to rip, and spill all your stuff on the airport floor?
We are second guessing professionals in marketing here.Keep the merch, spend my dues on lobbying.
Or offer quality products, and let me buy them, at a slight discount for renewing my membership.
But they wouldn't allow the option.
They built one if the most enviable political machines out there, very few interest groups had as much clout for the dollars raised.Than the mailers. I don't care how good a bulk rate postal deal they had, they spent three times the amount of my yearly dues trying to get me to renew. I even tried renewing immediately after receiving the first post-renewal mailing, to see if that would preempt the barrage to follow, to no avail. They just kept wasting money, month after month, year after year. Was anyone there monitoring the cost/result outcome of their persistent nagging?
Marketing is a plan that us executed, they seemed pretty successful to me.It all sang of loose fiscal policy and lack of oversight, and soured me on the organization for years to come.
The recent months have been a disaster because members stopped funding the organization. Do you think anyone on the left cares about this crap in their organizations? They don’t. They care about what I care about results, results many of which must be won in the DC swamp.Considering the recent results, maybe we'll see change for the better, maybe not.
You have really lost me here. You don't want a leader that can connect to Schumer and McConnell? The two biggest names in the senate? This is not how lobbying works. No lobbying group is going to bring them down.To get me to rejoin, it will take a leader whose skillset is not rubbing the backs of pond scum like McConnell and Schumer, but kicking their asses in the news media, and exposing the filth and corruption of their ilk.
If you follow the thread KiA has the NRA is often there with him, but I will let him speak for himself on this question.WLP was at the State house schmoozing State Senators and Reps?
We have held our own against billionaires that wish to destroy us. Bloomberg is worth near $100 billion spending a reported $50-$75 million a year to defeat us. The NRA was a big part of holding back that onslaught which is why they went so far to destroy it.We have gained little at the Federal level.
I will take that as a high compliment.You really are the poster child for loyal to a fault.
Good question. The off the top of my head answer is, if what he was convicted of caused the likes of Schumer and McConnell, in other words the powers that run DC, to no longer fear or work with him rendering him ineffective at lobbying.What would it take for WLP to cross a line before the loyal would say, yeah, the NRA is better off without him? For me it’s been crossed.
I think the NRA-ILA has been good through the years and they deserve our support. You may not want to become a member but you can still donate to NRA-ILA directly without being a member. You can do a one time donation, or monthly, or whatever. Of course you'll receive endless spam from them. You may even need to tell them if they don't knock it off they'll not get another ***damn dime.To get me to rejoin, it will take a leader whose skillset is not rubbing the backs of pond scum like McConnell and Schumer, but kicking their asses in the news media, and exposing the filth and corruption of their ilk.
I'm not a member now. Doesn't mean I don't support the NRA. Like I said, you can support the important work the NRA does without being a member, while not supporting the corruption.I am just channeling back the crap posted. Nobody knows anything for sure but a lot of cocksure posting going on here probably because most of the complaints are not even from voting members. The posts by most voting members are more measured because if one really is a part of something they are less excited about burning it down.
I have met many a gun owner that claimed membership but figured out later they were not, though they really did almost believe they were…
It seriously isn't. You don't owe loyalty other than, to God, if that's what you believe, and to your country, to your family, and to your friends. Doesn't mean you don't have a sort of comradeship with like minded individuals who support the same causes. That's what an association is. It is the people, not the leader. The NRA is not WLP. You just have this unearned loyalty to WLP as if he IS the NRA.If you follow the thread KiA has the NRA is often there with him, but I will let him speak for himself on this question.
We have held our own against billionaires that wish to destroy us. Bloomberg is worth near $100 billion spending a reported $50-$75 million a year to defeat us. The NRA was a big part of holding back that onslaught which is why they went so far to destroy it.
I will take that as a high compliment.
So if you cannot vote you cannot help those of us that want to make things better. I have followed those that were trying to get good people on the board years before this blowup…I'm not a member now. Doesn't mean I don't support the NRA. Like I said, you can support the important work the NRA does without being a member, while not supporting the corruption.
It was a smart strategy