US appeals court strikes down state's concealed-carry ban

[RoyalTenenbaum]

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U.S. appeals court strikes down state's concealed-carry ban - chicagotribune.com

 

[downzero]

http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/NY0PNXWM.pdf

 

[T.Lex]

Dupe.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...2nd_amendment/251150-il_carry_ban_ruling.html

(But, it is really good news.)

 

[localone]

Its about time...Wonder if chicago can ban them in there city

 

[45calibre]

Illinois had to provide us with more than merely a rational basis for believing that its uniquely sweeping ban is justified by an increase in public safety. It has failed to meet this burden.

anyone think they will honor IN LTCH?

 

[DC47374]

anyone think they will honor IN LTCH?

Nope...I doubt they will honor anyones. The only licenses they may honor are those that require training to obtain. That's just my thought on how the Communists will proceed. However, I'm not holding my breath that they will not find some way to circumvent the issue......as they've done for years.

 

[cosermann]

I would encourage everyone to actually read the ruling.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

anyone think they will honor IN LTCH?

In all fairness, they actually honor EVERY permit as it pertains to Illinois law- to substitute for a FOID card. Specifically naming a LTCH from Indiana in the Illinois supreme court ruling.

They have a ton of work to do and I hope they screw around so long that instead of creating a complex permit system they over-run their deadline (180 days) and create the 5th Constitutional Carry state.

 

[Somemedic]

See you boys in 179 days... will be very interested in seeing how thief system gets put in place

 

[downzero]

In all fairness, they actually honor EVERY permit as it pertains to Illinois law- to substitute for a FOID card.

I don't know where you got that idea. Nonresidents are exempt from the FOID act. Actually, I do know where you got that idea, and it's still wrong.

 

[Hiker1911]

Lisa Madigan should go into private practice, and enjoy her retirement from public service. She's effectively wasted a great deal of the Illinois taxpayer's money defending this ban in the past!

 

[Titanium_Frost]

I don't know where you got that idea. Nonresidents are exempt from the FOID act. Actually, I do know where you got that idea, and it's still wrong.

Really. An Indiana resident was stopped in Chicago and had an unloaded handgun in his back seat console. He was arrested and charged with possession of a firearm without a valid FOID card.

Illinois recognizes any other state's permit as a FOID card. No permit, you cannot legally possess a firearm in Illinois unless you are under FOPA protection.

 

[downzero]

Really. An Indiana resident was stopped in Chicago and had an unloaded handgun in his back seat console. He was arrested and charged with possession of a firearm without a valid FOID card.

Illinois recognizes any other state's permit as a FOID card. No permit, you cannot legally possess a firearm in Illinois unless you are under FOPA protection.

As I stated before, you are wrong, and you have the facts in that case wrong as well.

Nonresidents are exempt from the FOID act:
430 ILCS 65/  Firearm Owners Identification Card Act.

Also, a console is a "case" for purposes of Illinois law, so if the gun was unloaded and encased in the console, he would not have been in violation of any Illinois statute relating to transporting that firearm. That's why I suggest that you actually read that Illinois case again, because it does not stand for what you think it stands for.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

I am not saying you can carry in Illinois via a LTCH or any other carry permit.

 

[youngda9]

BOLD PREDICTION:
The crime rate in Illinois will drop in the subsequent years. May take a few to get some legal gun toting citizens out there.

 

[youngda9]

I'd love to see reciprocity with my IN LTCH...but I'm not holding my breath. I guess I'll just have to keep my $$ on this side of the border until that day.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

As I stated before, you are wrong, and you have the facts in that case wrong as well.

Nonresidents are exempt from the FOID act:
430*ILCS*65/**Firearm Owners Identification Card Act.

Also, a console is a "case" for purposes of Illinois law, so if the gun was unloaded and encased in the console, he would not have been in violation of any Illinois statute relating to transporting that firearm. That's why I suggest that you actually read that Illinois case again, because it does not stand for what you think it stands for.

The part that pertains to the FOID and who is exempt is a recent version that appears to not go into effect until next year.

Source: P.A. 96-7, eff. 4-3-09; 97-1131, eff. 1-1-13

 

[TTravis]

There is hope in this. Too bad it won't happen until after the end of the world!

 

[seldon14]

I don't know about that. The taking a few years part to get them out there. As residents of the last state we have been chomping at the bit to get out there legally carrying.

 

[Scout103]

The only times I ever went to IL was when I was a kid, however this is a great step for the citizens of IL. It would be nice if they accepted our LTCH, but more than likely will not happen. However they may take the Utah non-resident since there is training involved for that license. It's a good day for all.