--Donald Trump, The America We Deserve
...because people can't change their views over the course of a decade and a half?
--Donald Trump, The America We Deserve
chipbennett said:...because people can't change their views over the course of a decade and a half?
Of course they can. The question is why? At his age, I don't believe for a single second that he changed his views because he suddenly cares about the constitution or individual liberty.
I am more than willing to concede that his life experiences over that time have led to a change in his viewpoint.
That said: I'm not on the Trump Train yet, because I'm not sure that I trust him, either. I'm still very much in observation mode, although I think he's going to win the Republican nomination, and the general election, with or without my enthusiastic support.
You really think he's going to win?
My Daddy always said "Wish in one hand and s**t in the other and see which one fills up first."
Nixon surprised me when he kept his promise to pull the troops out of Viet Nam.
Reagan pleased me when he kept promises.
Opie has kept his promise to fundamentally transform America.
It would be nice if he were to say it, but he hasn't. He can't seem too conservative that would render him un-electable. Like Trump.
So who else has said it?
Good find.
I am not a Trump apologist, I just don't see others on the platform making policy statements. As for Trump "just saying things to convince us he is conservative", why would he want to alienate the anti's? Why would he want to curry favor with the conservative base?
Can a person actually change their mind? I have.
Every other candidate that has been foisted upon us recently has pandered to the left to thy to get the "independent" vote.
I don't see Trump Pandering to the left. Has anyone ever pandered to the right?
Has anyone ever pandered to the right in a Republican Primary?
Of course they can. The question is why? At his age, I don't believe for a single second that he changed his views because he suddenly cares about the constitution or individual liberty.
AmmoManAaron said:I think his sons may have influenced him on the gun rights and hunting issues over the years.
Yeah, and that bothers me. I don't want a candidate whose principles swivel at the whim of whatever he happens to find interesting at the time. Oh, my boys like guns? Well then, GUNS FOR EVERYBODY!
That's ridiculous. How about gun rights because it's in the constitution? How about gun rights because the government has no authority or right to take them from us? What, he hadn't heard of the 2nd Amendment until 10 years ago and all of a sudden decided that maybe that amendment is ok after all?
Yeah, and that bothers me. I don't want a candidate whose principles swivel at the whim of whatever he happens to find interesting at the time. Oh, my boys like guns? Well then, GUNS FOR EVERYBODY!
That's ridiculous. How about gun rights because it's in the constitution? How about gun rights because the government has no authority or right to take them from us? What, he hadn't heard of the 2nd Amendment until 10 years ago and all of a sudden decided that maybe that amendment is ok after all?
Easy, I'm not on the Trump Train, just making observations. In a perfect world he would support the 2A based on principles, I'm just pointing out that everyone starts somewhere and that his sons may have been the catalyst for a positive change in his 2A stance. FWIW, I don't think most people start out pro-2A based purely on principles, they start into guns for a multitude of reasons (self defense, hunting tool, fun, etc.) and then grow into it (sometimes they even grow on INGO!).
I love that when some one makes a statement about Trump that becomes the narrative. Trump hates Islam, he thinks Kruz is ineligible,
now he is for guns only because his sons like them. His statements say that the 2A is Constitutional, but someone says something controversial and the weak minded swallow it hook line and sinker.
Steveh, Trump didn't say keep all muslims out, but keep them out until the vetting process is fixed. But the MSM portrays him as a Muslim hater. The weak minded believe anything the MSM TELLS THEM.
Trump didn't say he changed his mind on guns because his sons like guns. Someone on this board said it and it must be true because you read it on the internet.
Trump didn't raise the question of whether Cruz was eligible, some Sunday morning pundunce asked him about it and he said he didn't know, but the uninformed will believe Trump started it.
I will admit he seems to have taken the bait.
Every time these candidates let the MSM crowd use them use them it taints the perceptions of some.
You really think he's going to win?
At this point, just based on comparative voter enthusiasm? Yes. Trump is drawing huge crowds - and crowds that are comprised not of hard-right types, but of center/center-right Reagan majority types.
So do you Kut, and it scares the **** out of left leaning people like yourself. And the sweet irony is it scares the **** out of the left leaning Republican establishment as well. That is why both sides attempt to discredit him at every opportunity. This isn't the first time Trump has ran and he certainly never required this amount of political voodoo in previous years. Why is that? Both sides of the establishment are fearful because they see and electorate that has grown tired of lying, manipulative, bastards furthering their own interests and disregarding those they have been elected to represent. This electorate awakening has only occurred on one side of the aisle unfortunately. Once people that think more leftist wake the hell up, see their establishment candidates are no different then ours, we can start making strides toward perfecting this broken system.
You have a woman front runner for the democratic presidential nomination that has been in 'public service' for her entire life... that has amassed a fortune of $100's of millions in personal, corporate, and 'foundation' assets. A personal fortunate alone exceeding $50 million.... (which how does a public servant accomplish that?) all while preaching the dogma of income inequality and distribution of wealth. Liberal people fail to see the disparity between the sales pitch and reality. She is as much in bed with Wall Street, big business as any candidate running... but she wants to be the champion for the small guy? The Citizens United decision guaranteed dollars went to buy the best political representation money can buy, and corporate America (both sides of the aisle) are getting something for their money.
I wish everyone could awaken to this fact. The fact he doesn't have to be indebted to any special interest to get to this point, is from my perspective, the most (possibly only?) appealing thing about Trump.
All 50 states issue such licenses to their own residents. On the basis of the second amendment (RKBA), fourteenth amendment (equal protection of the laws), and numerous court decisions, it is entirely appropriate and constitutional for the federal government to require reciprocity of state-issued resident carry licenses.
You really think he's going to win?
blue falcon said:Trump didn't say he changed his mind on guns because his sons like guns. Someone on this board said it and it must be true because you read it on the internet.
For realz? So you don't care if he believe the stuff he says, but because there's no 'special interest', it all good?The fact he doesn't have to be indebted to any special interest to get to this point, is from my perspective, the most (possibly only?) appealing thing about Trump.