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    SheepDog4Life

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    Is that because of America first policies or mean tweets?
    Neither, when he became a sore loser extraordinaire, surpassing Algore, Hilary and Abrams, and tried to induce Pence to overturn the certified state election results to APPOINT him president...

    That would be when he lost any chance of ever again garnering my vote.

    Ever.
     

    BugI02

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    Neither, when he became a sore loser extraordinaire, surpassing Algore, Hilary and Abrams, and tried to induce Pence to overturn the certified state election results to APPOINT him president...

    That would be when he lost any chance of ever again garnering my vote.

    Ever.
    So, we'll put you down as a vote for 'BOHICA' on the election integrity question
     

    Ingomike

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    Neither, when he became a sore loser extraordinaire, surpassing Algore, Hilary and Abrams, and tried to induce Pence to overturn the certified state election results to APPOINT him president...

    That would be when he lost any chance of ever again garnering my vote.

    Ever.
    Clealy you do not know what happened and get you news from the MSM mockingbird media.

    Please show me when Trump tried to get pence to appoint him President?
     
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    tried to induce Pence to overturn the certified state election results to APPOINT him president...
    This statement isn't true. I also point out that constitutional scholars were unsure of protocol when there are disputed electors from a State(s). With or without this particular issue, Pence is proven to be weak politically. He rode the Orange coattales for his own gain. When the going got rough, he bailed. It's the same MO Pence has used politically any time the going gets rough.
     

    SheepDog4Life

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    Clealy you do not know what happened and get you news from the MSM mockingbird media.

    Please show me when Trump tried to get pence to appoint him President?

    From his Jan 6th speech:
    And I'll tell you. Thank you very much, John. Fantastic job. I watched. That's a tough act to follow, those two. John is one of the most brilliant lawyers in the country, and he looked at this and he said, "What an absolute disgrace that this can be happening to our Constitution."

    And he looked at Mike Pence, and I hope Mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so. I hope so.

    Because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. All he has to do, all this is, this is from the number one, or certainly one of the top, Constitutional lawyers in our country. He has the absolute right to do it. We're supposed to protect our country, support our country, support our Constitution, and protect our constitution.

    States want to revote. The states got defrauded. They were given false information. They voted on it. Now they want to recertify. They want it back. All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people.

    And I actually, I just spoke to Mike. I said: "Mike, that doesn't take courage. What takes courage is to do nothing. That takes courage." And then we're stuck with a president who lost the election by a lot and we have to live with that for four more years. We're just not going to let that happen.

    = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
    Which state voted that they wanted to "re-certify" the election with a different slate of electors? Which?
     

    SheepDog4Life

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    This statement isn't true. I also point out that constitutional scholars were unsure of protocol when there are disputed electors from a State(s). With or without this particular issue, Pence is proven to be weak politically. He rode the Orange coattales for his own gain. When the going got rough, he bailed. It's the same MO Pence has used politically any time the going gets rough.
    Not really... your dispute is in the state courts. There were no "disputed" electors from the states... there were CERTIFIED electors from the states.
     

    jamil

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    Maybe because his ego won't allow him to realize when's he's shooting\shot himself in the foot. First time around, the nicknames were generally fun because they mostly directed at the primary candidates the right flank of the party disliked or tolerated, the exception being Ted Cruz. I think the right flank overlooked the Cruz nicknames because they were yearning for a bare knuckle brawler after decades of their milquetoast candidates getting steamrolled by similar tactics from the democrats, because they wouldn't take the gloves off and punch back, hard. 2020, he had no opposition so both barrels were directed at Hillary. Now he's resorted to the same thing that worked in 2016, but he's miscalculated because the landscape has changed on the Republican side. Desantis is seen by the right flank as a brawler, though a bit more polished than Trump and without the narcissistic megalomaniac personality. If Trump wishes another shot at the nomination, he CANNOT direct this type of fire at a potential Republican candidate that the base sees as as tough a political fighter as Trump but without the downsides we ignored in the last two cycles.
    Well. I agree with most of that. Not all that sure about not megalomaniac after seeing the ad “on the 8th day” put out by the DeSantis campaign. Yeesh! I mean. At least we’re all pretty sure he didn’t **** a porn star while his wife is pregnant with his kid. So there’s that.
     

    jamil

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    Neither, when he became a sore loser extraordinaire, surpassing Algore, Hilary and Abrams, and tried to induce Pence to overturn the certified state election results to APPOINT him president...

    That would be when he lost any chance of ever again garnering my vote.

    Ever.
    Well. Let’s not get crazy. If it’s a choice between a megalomaniacal blowhard cult leader, porn star ****ing, sore loser extraordinaire, versus a bat **** crazy communist loving, kid ****ing, racist bag of ****, nation destroying pedo, I guess I’m stuck with voting for the porn star ****er. At least he’s America-first.
     
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    Six Senators and 121 House members disputed the certified electors votes. So technically some states disputed their own electors. That's significant. There were more objections originally but some objectors recanted after the 'insurrection'. I couldn't possibly argue a constitutional resolve to such a situational dispute. But I sure as hell recognize legitimate dispute.
     

    KG1

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    Well. Let’s not get crazy. If it’s a choice between a megalomaniacal blowhard cult leader, porn star ****ing, sore loser extraordinaire, versus a bat **** crazy communist loving, kid ****ing, racist bag of ****, nation destroying pedo, I guess I’m stuck with voting for the porn star ****er. At least he’s America-first.
    I think the measure we are supposed to go by is that you can be the biggest a-hole in the world and that's fine as long as you deliver on America first policies that I care about and benefits me.
     
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