Trump 2024 ???

[jamil]

I don't 'owe' you anything, you demanded something and I told you why I believe it a waste of my time

There is no way to tell the difference between if I accurately describe your true motivations but you don't wish to admit them and I am actually wrong about your motivations. Both result in you claiming I am wrong, and unlike the people who claim to know why Trump 'really' does something, I am not a mind reader so cannot sort that out

I took that requirement off the table. I’d rather you’d behave in good faith about it. But at this point. Since you made the accusations, I’d at least like an explanation.

 

[jamil]

Well, I saw he was in Israel, and when I criticized his push as a US representative for Puerto Rican statehood I was told he had a lot of constituents who were Puerto Rican. So I guess he must have a lot of constituents who are jewish, too. Couldn't possibly be trying to play a statesman on TV

I guess he isn't going to run unless he doesn't have to go all in and give up his gig as governor. That alone makes me wonder about his commitment to his supposed principles. If he thinks he's the man who can save the republic, I would think having a fall back position wouldn't enter into consideration

It’s what politicians do. They pander. I don’t like it either. I kinda doubt you’re all that against it. Trump tried to pretend he’s a Christian. That bit of pandering didn’t bother you. So from the available empirical evidence I think it’s reasonable to conclude you’re only against pandering when it’s someone competing with your panderer.

 

[KG1]

Dueling panderers. What a novel concept.

 

[BugI02]

It’s what politicians do. They pander. I don’t like it either. I kinda doubt you’re all that against it. Trump tried to pretend he’s a Christian. That bit of pandering didn’t bother you. So from the available empirical evidence I think it’s reasonable to conclude you’re only against pandering when it’s someone competing with your panderer.

So, I thought he was the man of the hour. You're telling me he's no better than Trump in how genuine he is in his beliefs

I think I still prefer the guy who has already delivered on America First over the guy who might be pandering to us, too. Advantage Trump

 

[BugI02]

Dueling panderers. What a novel concept.

 

[Magyars]

 

[jamil]

So, I thought he was the man of the hour. You're telling me he's no better than Trump in how genuine he is in his beliefs

I think I still prefer the guy who has already delivered on America First over the guy who might be pandering to us, too. Advantage Trump

In some ways he’s better. In some ways he’s not. It’s up to you to decide which one you think is better. I’ll do the same. Except I’ll make that decision in May. If there is a choice by then.

 

[KG1]

So, I thought he was the man of the hour. You're telling me he's no better than Trump in how genuine he is in his beliefs

I think I still prefer the guy who has already delivered on America First over the guy who might be pandering to us, too. Advantage Trump

I'm getting kind of a vibe here when you keep inserting the word "beliefs' occasionally that it's a not-so-subtle jab (which is something that you have a pattern of doing) in reference to the posts I've made relating to what indyblue posted a few days ago where I gave both Trump and DeSantis praise for their common beliefs in governing by those same core principles outlined in that post in which they have both demonstrated.

I'm not so blinded by bias that it prevents me from being able to give credit to both Trump as well as DeSantis when credit is due.

I've said that I would be 100% confident in DeSantis to govern by the foundation of those core principles as I am with Trump. Both have already proven that they can walk the talk which is why I've also said that I would have no qualms about voting for either one based on that if and when it comes down to it.

 

[KG1]

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Pander Bears.

 

[jamil]

I'm getting kind of a vibe here when you keep inserting the word "beliefs' occasionally that it's a not-so-subtle jab (which is something that you have a pattern of doing) in reference to the posts I've made relating to what indyblue posted a few days ago where I gave both Trump and DeSantis praise for their common beliefs in governing by those same core principles outlined in that post which they have both demonstrated.

I'm not so blinded by bias that it prevents me from being able to give credit to the both of them when credit is due.

I've said that I would be 100% confident in DeSantis to govern by the foundation of those core principles as I am with Trump. Both have already proven that they can walk the talk which is why I've said that I would have no qualms about voting for either one based on that if and when it comes down to it.

First, Bug is a teamer. He will try to squash any talk of another. He is fiercely loyal. People who can vote for a Republican besides Trump are as much enemies as Democrats.

As for who I'll vote for, the way I look at it, it's gonna be about who I think is least evil come May 2024. I know the evil Trump is, it's been on display for awhile now. There are no surprises there. So I have until Indiana's primary day to find out if DeSantis is more or less evil than Trump. So far, it's looking less, self aggrandizing god-picked-me commercials notwithstanding. We'll see.

 

[jamil]

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So is ****ing a horse faced porn star while your wife is pregnant. But, that's more of a personal character flaw rather than ideological collective immorality. Worth noting, but not the moral equivalent, nor impact on lives.

 

[KG1]

First, Bug is a teamer. He will try to squash any talk of another. He is fiercely loyal. People who can vote for a Republican besides Trump is as much an enemy as a Democrat.

As for which I'll vote for, the way I look at it, it's gonna be about who I think is least evil come May 2024. I know the evil Trump is, it's been on display for awhile now. There are no surprises there. So I have until Indiana's primary day to find out if DeSantis is more or less evil than Trump. So far, it's looking less, god-picked-me commercials not withstanding. We'll see.

I have shown many times that I am able to give Trump praise when warranted and have also defended him as well as being critical at times. Hell even DeSantis has publicly defended Trump many times going all the way back to when he was in congress during the impeachment onslaught phase against Trump and even farther back than that come to think of it when he defended Trump from the beginning of the Russia collusion hoax bull****

Bug is so blinded by his bias that he is incapable now of doing anything like that. He's just to wrapped up in maintaining a bubble around Trump defending him from any criticism.

 

[Expat]

I'm getting kind of a vibe here when you keep inserting the word "beliefs' occasionally that it's a not-so-subtle jab (which is something that you have a pattern of doing) in reference to the posts I've made relating to what indyblue posted a few days ago where I gave both Trump and DeSantis praise for their common beliefs in governing by those same core principles outlined in that post in which they have both demonstrated.

I'm not so blinded by bias that it prevents me from being able to give credit to the both of them when credit is due.

I've said that I would be 100% confident in DeSantis to govern by the foundation of those core principles as I am with Trump. Both have already proven that they can walk the talk which is why I've also said that I would have no qualms about voting for either one based on that if and when it comes down to it.

Reminds me of the pre Trump days. Remember before that, all conservatives kept wishing that Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Mike Lee and someone else would run for President to buck the RINO establishment. After the Trumpers got done smearing them, they were dead on the national level.

 

[KG1]

So is ****ing a horse faced porn star while your wife is pregnant. But, that's more of a personal character flaw rather than ideological collective immorality. Worth noting, but not the moral equivalent, nor impact on lives.

You mean the noble principle of banging a porn star while you are married to your pregnant wife?

 

[jamil]

You mean the noble principle of banging a porn star while you are married to your pregnant wife?

Well he was playing 4D chess. He planned the whole thing knowing that years later he’d run for president, pay the horse faced porn star off, and then eventually would be indicted, thereby bumping him in polls a few points for a few weeks. Winning!

 

[KG1]

Pander Bears.

 

[TheTrooper]

 

[TheTrooper]

 

[KG1]

Ummm...Except that isn't the "Great Wall of China." And when has Trump been controlled by the CCP? Don't be plugging up this thread with your wall of memes like all the others.

 

[TheTrooper]

Ummm...Except that isn't the "Great Wall of China." And when has Trump been controlled by the CCP? Don't be plugging up this thread with your wall of memes like all the others.

I fully agree with both your points: That isn't the Great Wall of China and Trump is not controlled by the CCP.