Trump 2024 ???

[jamil]

What label do you like? Retarded has already been used…

Hey, Retarded isn't a one and done kinda thing. It's reusable. Versatile. If you want to call it the retarded media, how can I possibly deny that? But, corporate media also works as a label. It conveys everything that needs conveyed. Corporate media, corporate spin.

 

[KLB]

Hey, Retarded isn't a one and done kinda thing. It's reusable. Versatile. If you want to call it the retarded media, how can I possibly deny that? But, corporate media also works as a label. It conveys everything that needs conveyed. Corporate media, corporate spin.

 

[KG1]

Has it occurred to you that people who don't agree with you about your favorite politicians' character have derived their opinions from the actions of the person and not from corporate media? Trump is a pretty lousy human being. If it's a choice between transforming the US into a Marxist **** hole, or the porn star ****er, I'll guess I'll have to take the porn star ****er. But if I had a better choice, I'd drop Trump like a used rubber.

Yep. One doesn't need to follow the MSM to get a sense that Trump has some serious character flaws and an overbearing, brash, crass. crude sophomoric personality at times but his policies were effective none the less. Voting strictly on policies Trump should win hands down but it's just so damn difficult for some to get past his of off-putting nature and vote for him. That's the conundrum many voters are wrestling with.

It's like they're saying damn I may like the results of some of his policies, but I have a hard time stomaching him on a personal level. Can there not be an alternative to vote for where I don't get that queasy feeling?

Why do I have to vote for someone that I otherwise would'nt care to associate with in any other setting?

 

[Ingomike]

Yep. One doesn't need to follow the MSM to get a sense that Trump has some serious character flaws and an overbearing, brash, crass. crude sophomoric personality at times but his policies were effective none the less. Voting strictly on policies Trump should win hands down but it's just so damn difficult for some to get past his of off-putting nature and vote for him. That's the conundrum many voters are wrestling with.

It's like they're saying damn I may like the results of some of his policies, but I have a hard time stomaching him on a personal level. Can there not be an alternative to vote for where I don't get that queasy feeling?

Why do I have to vote for someone that I otherwise would'nt care to associate with in any other setting?

Did you ever read what some thought of the founding fathers? God does not send perfect men, he sends men perfect for the job…

 

[KG1]

Did you ever read what some thought of the founding fathers? God does not send perfect men, he sends men perfect for the job…

Don't get me wrong. I voted for Trump the second time based strictly on results. I did not vote for him because others believe that Trump is "God's" candidate. While I am a person of faith I do not believe he was "sent" by God. Maybe you believe he was and it's possibly why you may have voted for him. IDK.

Personally I didn't view it as "Trump was sent by God and therefore as a person of faith I must vote for him"

 

[Shadow01]

Don’t care who runs as long as they are not an established politician and they must be a conservative With the willingness to call out RINOs at every turn.

 

[1nderbeard]

Don't get me wrong. I voted for Trump the second time based strictly on results. I did not vote for him because others believe that Trump is "God's" candidate. While I am a person of faith I do not believe he was "sent" by God. Maybe you believe he was.

Personally I don't think God is that involved in our civil affairs.

As to the original question:
"Why do I have to vote for someone that I otherwise would'nt care to associate with in any other setting?"

This isn't about associating, it's about electing a leader for our country. And because of our two party political system, we have basically been left with two people who are both really (really) bad humans. Personally I think the only people qualified to lead the country are people that wouldn't ever want the job. So we're left with the choice between two scumbags. You just have to pick the scumbag that will leave you alone. It's not an election to pick your friend.

 

[Ingomike]

Don't get me wrong. I voted for Trump the second time based strictly on results. I did not vote for him because others believe that Trump is "God's" candidate. While I am a person of faith I do not believe he was "sent" by God.

To your first point I was just pointing out that other great men also had imperfections. I dId not say Trump was Gods candidate. I said God uses imperfect men to do his will, it is up to the free choice of humans to execute it. I do believe that God used Trump to the betterment of the country…

 

[KG1]

Personally I don't think God is that involved in our civil affairs.

As to the original question:
"Why do I have to vote for someone that I otherwise would'nt care to associate with in any other setting?"

This isn't about associating, it's about electing a leader for our country. And because of our two party political system, we have basically been left with two people who are both really (really) bad humans. Personally I think the only people qualified to lead the country are people that wouldn't ever want the job. So we're left with the choice between two scumbags. You just have to pick the scumbag that will leave you alone. It's not an election to pick your friend.

I understand this thus my response to IM where I stated that I voted for Trump the second time based strictly on results even though I may have a strong dislike for his "scumbag" personality. The bottom line is I set aside my personal dislike and I voted for him because I thought his policy results were in the best interest of this country.

 

[COOPADUP]

I’m concerned that he may not be the correct person to run based upon the last election.
So much baggage attached might put another Dem in the White House.
We, as conservatives need a new hero.

 

[KLB]

We, as conservatives need a new hero.

Maybe one that is a conservative?

 

[Ingomike]

I’m concerned that he may not be the correct person to run based upon the last election.
So much baggage attached might put another Dem in the White House.
We, as conservatives need a new hero.

Who do you recommend? Who else is out there that can withstand the arrows of the swamp? Who do you trust to not fall apart and become a RINO in office? Since humans are imperfect the new choice will also be shown to have “baggage”, how will that be different?

I think anyone that gets all upset over Trump’s personality has been manipulated by the propaganda machine. It is odd that so many say the same words that were perpetuated by the media propaganda machine.

 

[Ingomike]

Personally I don't think God is that involved in our civil affairs.

As to the original question:
"Why do I have to vote for someone that I otherwise would'nt care to associate with in any other setting?"

This isn't about associating, it's about electing a leader for our country. And because of our two party political system, we have basically been left with two people who are both really (really) bad humans. Personally I think the only people qualified to lead the country are people that wouldn't ever want the job. So we're left with the choice between two scumbags. You just have to pick the scumbag that will leave you alone. It's not an election to pick your friend.

What is incredibly funny is the fact Trump was hand selected by the media machine to **** conservatives, getting Trump the nomination was supposed to make the election a coronation of HRC. There was no way Trump could connect to conservatives, no way. Then when he started to gain traction they just pulled out the magic p***y tape and sink the ship. Trump was a major media propaganda machine fail.

 

[Ingomike]

Maybe one that is a conservative?

Suggestions as to who? How they get through the gauntlet? And that they will govern as a conservative?

 

[Jaybird1980]

Maybe one that is a conservative?

And younger

 

[bwframe]

 

[KG1]

Who do you recommend? Who else is out there that can withstand the arrows of the swamp? Who do you trust to not fall apart and become a RINO in office? Since humans are imperfect the new choice will also be shown to have “baggage”, how will that be different?

I think anyone that gets all upset over Trump’s personality has been manipulated by the propaganda machine. It is odd that so many say the same words that were perpetuated by the media propaganda machine.

So, you don't believe that Trump has major flaws when it comes to personal integrity issues. Those are all made up by MSM propaganda?

 

[KG1]

I like the way she thinks plus she's easy on the eyes. Anyone that thinks things are better now under Biden than they were under Trump is not being objectively honest.

 

[bwframe]

Lotta folks have their purity tests. Problem is that anyone who can and will contend to run for president will never meet them.

Often we throw out our only real choice by whining about particulars. All that whining gets picked up and accentuated by haters. It's exactly why we have things like this scam Jan 6th commission.

We should strive to learn to better describe our feelings of concern for less than stellar behavior, without feeding the enemy talking points and "numbers" of republican detractors.

 

[KG1]

Lotta folks have their purity tests. Problem is that anyone who can and will contend to run for president will never meet them.

Often we throw out our only real choice by whining about particulars. All that whining gets picked up and accentuated by haters. It's exactly why we have things like this scam Jan 6th commission.

We should strive to learn to better describe our feelings of concern for less than stellar behavior, without feeding the enemy talking points and "numbers" of republican detractors.

I have done this. I have described my concerns about Trumps less than stellar behavior while at the same time making the case that Trump's policy results were good for the country when he was in office despite his less than stellar personal behavior.

I would also point out to those other individuals that Biden and his whole family have less than stellar personal integrity issue and on top of that his policy results thus far are worse for the country.

I think where the MSM comes into play and where they are doing a great disservice to this country is that they intentionally focus on Trump's flaws for political reasons and deliberately suppress Biden's flaws of which there are many. Thus far Biden is leading us all down the path of ruination as a nation whereas the nation was on an uptick under Trump.

Given that they both have less than stellar personal integrity issues the focus should be on who's policies are better for the nation.