Trump 2024 — The second term

[Ingomike]

Idunno. I think we’ve already argued those points. I don’t know how long ago that was. Or which thread even. Maybe this one.

So I forget now how you claimed that PA’s electors weren’t chosen in the manner the legislature chose. Can you state it again?

We have discussed it in the past. I am not digging it all back up again. It happened, it was not constitutional, the courts refused to hear cases.

 

[Ingomike]

And now they make the move they have been setting up for nearly a year…

House Democrats demand Thomas recuses himself from Trump immunity case

The Democrats said Thomas' impartiality may be questioned because his wife "was intimately involved in Mr. Trump’s alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election."

justthenews.com

 

[bwframe]

The simple fact that election integrity was proven compromised, "yet, not enough to overturn," should be all that's needed.

Either the election was valid or it was not. What percentage of election fraud is tolerable? What percentage of election fraud will be acceptable for 2024?

Simple questions...

 

[HKFaninCarmel]

I think you are just jealous of Trump and crew. Sorry you can't win...


...not sorry...

"winning" in this case is filing a frivolous lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and losing a million dollars, probably paid by donors, and then blaming the media for not covering it, even though they did. Then to see Trump's crowd, likely donors, cheering at paying for frivolous lawsuits and a crap lawyer, just start cheering... because MAGA or something.

Some of you are so far up Trump's ass that even when he loses, you can only see winning.

 

[HKFaninCarmel]

Yes, we have crossed the rubicon. That to defeat political opponents, their legal representation is threatened to the point it is impossible to obtain adequate counsel is un-American. But those perpetrating this are indeed un-American…

She got hammered for pushing frivolous lawsuits. She came from a parking garage company. She replaced lawyers who held pressers in alleys by dumpsters. He has former attorneys providing depositions against him and pleading guilty to election-related charges. Are the lawyers threatened, or are they avoiding a dumpster fire?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Yay! It’s going to be free and what’s under our feet will pay for it.

(I think we’ve fallen for this sort of line before).

 

[bwframe]

The simple fact that election integrity was proven compromised, "yet, not enough to overturn," should be all that's needed.

Either the election was valid or it was not. What percentage of election fraud is tolerable? What percentage of election fraud will be acceptable for 2024?

Simple questions...

 

[jamil]

I've been here almost as long as you @jamil.

To Mike's point, a lot of stuff has already come out. But, given that the MSM and most of the judicial system is in the dems' pocket, none of it matters...

Lol. On my phone it wrapped the join date so I saw a 2 where I usually see the number of posts. Sorry about that.

What is needed to overturn an election, and we just saw one overturned recently. Is strong proof of cheating and to the extent that it would alter the results. I know Mike and a lot of folks think they have that kind of evidence. I think they have enough for suspicion.

 

[jamil]

Yay! It’s going to be free and what’s under our feet will pay for it.

(I think we’ve fallen for this sort of line before).

Okay. Wealth under our feet? Dirt? Most charitable interpretation from just that context, when he’s president he’s going to make America rich. And America can then afford healthcare. So. If that’s the case, is he talking single payer?

 

[firecadet613]

Amen! @bwframe 20204!

This will never pass, as you know most only still get elected due to shady stuff going on with elections...

 

[firecadet613]

Lol. On my phone it wrapped the join date so I saw a 2 where I usually see the number of posts. Sorry about that.

What is needed to overturn an election, and we just saw one overturned recently. Is strong proof of cheating and to the extent that it would alter the results. I know Mike and a lot of folks think they have that kind of evidence. I think they have enough for suspicion.

It's all good.

There's no doubt in my mind that evidence exists, but it's been buried, thrown out, or folks silenced.

Heck, just look at what happened to Seth Rich or others who know too much...

 

[bwframe]

Amen! @bwframe 20204!

This will never pass...

Not yet, but a lot of folks haven't seen the simple common sense proposal. It'd be a great set of questions for journalists to ask of democratic candidates and republicans also.

The more this gets spread around and discussed, the more likely it becomes a topic of discussion. We should learn from our enemies. The dems are excellent at not giving up. They play the long game well.

Remember when global warming and the green new deal was just crazy talk of the loons? Remember when the dem speaker of the house made fun of such talk? Where are we now
???

 

[KG1]

Okay. Wealth under our feet? Dirt? Most charitable interpretation from just that context, when he’s president he’s going to make America rich. And America can then afford healthcare. So. If that’s the case, is he talking single payer?

What came to mind first is the wealth from fossil fuels. We are rich in fossil fuels under our feet. But who really knows.

 

[Ingomike]

Lol. On my phone it wrapped the join date so I saw a 2 where I usually see the number of posts. Sorry about that.

What is needed to overturn an election, and we just saw one overturned recently. Is strong proof of cheating and to the extent that it would alter the results. I know Mike and a lot of folks think they have that kind of evidence. I think they have enough for suspicion.

This is where you do not state my position correctly. I think they have enough for suspicion. Worded differently, they have probable cause to do a deep investigation. I have never said that they have enough to overturn anything. I have said the initial appearances are similar to those of the overturned elections…

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Okay. Wealth under our feet? Dirt? Most charitable interpretation from just that context, when he’s president he’s going to make America rich. And America can then afford healthcare. So. If that’s the case, is he talking single payer?

In before he tells us later that that’s not what he ever meant and only idiots would believe he ever had a way of paying for it.

 

[KG1]

What came to mind first is the wealth from fossil fuels. We are rich in fossil fuels under our feet. But who really knows.

Apparently this is what Trump is referring to. He's used the term before when he said "the wealth under our feet" could help prevent SS insolvency. Now I guess it will pay for healthcare too.

Group calls out Trump's Social Security funding plan

(The Center Square) – A Washington policy group has called out former President Donald Trump on his plan to use U.S. oil revenue to save the nation's Social Security program.

www.news-journal.com

"Trump said during a Fox News town hall that "incredible wealth under our feet" in the form of domestic oil and gas could prevent Social Security's insolvency."

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Apparently this is what Trump is referring to. He's used the term before when he said "the wealth under are feet" could help prevent SS insolvency. Now I guess it will pay for healthcare too.

Group calls out Trump's Social Security funding plan

(The Center Square) – A Washington policy group has called out former President Donald Trump on his plan to use U.S. oil revenue to save the nation's Social Security program.

www.news-journal.com

"Trump said during a Fox News town hall that "incredible wealth under our feet" in the form of domestic oil and gas could prevent Social Security's insolvency."

I’m guessing he’s talking about resources under federally owned land. Maybe.

 

[KG1]

I’m guessing he’s talking about resources under federally owned land. Maybe.

Yes I believe that to be the case. Oil and gas revenues for U.S. federal lands and federal waters.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Yes I believe that to be the case. Oil and gas revenues for U.S. federal lands and federal waters.

Just spit ballin’ here but I’m sure that’s a lot of money to be had there but there is no amount of money to pay for a widely desired product or service when it is “free”.

 

[KG1]

Just spit ballin’ here but I’m sure that’s a lot of money to be had there but there is no amount of money to pay for a widely desired product or service when it is “free”.

According to estimates in the article it doesn't appear that even oil and gas revenues will be nearly sufficiently adequate to fund free anything. The best it could do is to help subsidize SS and healthcare costs and not completely pay for it.