To Mask or Not to Mask?

[DoggyDaddy]

After the Attorney General said he doesn't have the ability to make new laws on his own and suggested a special session, he removed that part. Pesky Constitution.

Good!

 

[paintman]

If iT SaVeS jUSt OnE LiFEeee!!!

just got back from a week in TN, crossed paths with 10’s of thousands of people, didn’t touch a mask the whole time.

nobody in my family group has a single symptom, it’s been a week. I’ve seen estimates that say 100% compliance will see a 30% case reduction, yet NOWHERE I’ve been has more than a 50% mask wearing ratio.

I did get a little irritated about the subject of if it saves just one life. Knowing this person is pro abortion. I said yep If it will save just one innocent baby make sure you wear a mask on your way to get an abortion. Conversation was over.

 

[Steel and wood]

If mask are the answer. why in the socialist paradise of California that has had a mandatory facemask why are they #1 for flu deaths and infection rate?

 

[CampingJosh]

If mask are the answer. why in the socialist paradise of California that has had a mandatory facemask why are they #1 for flu deaths and infection rate?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_and_territories_of_the_United_States_by_population

Having 1.3x the population of the second largest state (and over 65x the smallest) might have an impact on counting stats.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_and_territories_of_the_United_States_by_population

Having 1.3x the population of the second largest state (and over 65x the smallest) might have an impact on counting stats.

An "infections per capita" rate might be more informative.

 

[qwerty]

If mask are the answer. why in the socialist paradise of California that has had a mandatory facemask why are they #1 for flu deaths and infection rate?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_and_territories_of_the_United_States_by_population

Having 1.3x the population of the second largest state (and over 65x the smallest) might have an impact on counting stats.

An "infections per capita" rate might be more informative.

As of today, California has a 2.13 deaths and 114.91 cases per 10,000 Indiana has 4.31 deaths and 92.65 cases per 10,000 since this whole "pandemic" started. https://twnwi.com/States.php

 

[Chewie]

An "infections per capita" rate might be more informative.

Definitely more informative BUT does it conflict with the agenda? If the answer is yes, you'll never hear it. If the answer was no, it would be all over the media! Which brings a question to mind, what has happened to deaths from the plain old flu? It would appear that they have diminished dramatically this year. Those who wear tin foil hats and have inquiring minds would like to know

 

[johny5]

Definitely more informative BUT does it conflict with the agenda? If the answer is yes, you'll never hear it. If the answer was no, it would be all over the media! Which brings a question to mind, what has happened to deaths from the plain old flu? It would appear that they have diminished dramatically this year. Those who wear tin foil hats and have inquiring minds would like to know

They certainly are NOT reclassifying flu deaths as Covid deaths if that is what you are implying!!

 

[Chewie]

They certainly are NOT reclassifying flu deaths as Covid deaths if that is what you are implying!!

Are you 100% sure? Not implying anything, just a question. Maybe misclassification? It happens every day.

 

[Flingarrows]

Ah

Well, in case I misread your post, feel free to transfer my reply to you into a reply to Fauci and his hypocrisy.

All good brother


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[jkaetz]

Are you 100% sure? Not implying anything, just a question. Maybe misclassification? It happens every day.

Things in purple are to be read with a heavy dose of sarcasm. Most of us are pretty confident the death numbers are inflated with flu and other common conditions.

 

[Chewie]

Things in purple are to be read with a heavy dose of sarcasm. Most of us are pretty confident the death numbers are inflated with flu and other common conditions.

Believe it or not, I missed the purple completely first couple of times. Saw it about the 3rd reading and thought (difficult for me to do) hmmmmm, I missed the intended meaning. Happens when you get old and have to work from home thanks to this wonderful social distancing stuff.

 

[chipbennett]

Then they didn't need to mandate it corporate wide, it probably still won't be enforced tomorrow. Especially since there is no penalty other then potentially trespassing for not wearing one.

Not wearing a mask is not trespass. If the proprietor asks you to leave because you're not wearing a mask (or for any other reason, for that matter), your refusal to leave (masked or not masked), could escalate to criminal trespass. The wearing of or refusal to wear a mask does not factor.

 

[foszoe]

Compliance rates.

If mask are the answer. why in the socialist paradise of California that has had a mandatory facemask why are they #1 for flu deaths and infection rate?

 

[jamil]

After the Attorney General said he doesn't have the ability to make new laws on his own and suggested a special session, he removed that part. Pesky Constitution.

It’s not that he removed it. It was announced on Wednesday that it would be a clas B misdemeanor. But when the actual EO was issued on Friday it wasn’t there. The ***** ass ***** just didn’t include it. Also, the ***** ass ***** insisted that he did have the power to do that. He said his office researched it before announcing it and would not have included it in the announcement if it weren’t within his power. He refused to comment why it wasn’t in the actual EO. Because he’s a ***** ass *****.

 

[terrehautian]

Not wearing a mask is not trespass. If the proprietor asks you to leave because you're not wearing a mask (or for any other reason, for that matter), your refusal to leave (masked or not masked), could escalate to criminal trespass. The wearing of or refusal to wear a mask does not factor.

this I know, that was what I was trying to say.

 

[dusty88]

An "infections per capita" rate might be more informative.

I would also look at states who have driven the curve down (or not). Unfortunately there is no way to isolate one action (like masks) from other actions (like voluntary or mandated decline in gatherings) to have absolute proof of the contribution of widespread mask use. Even with mandates, the practice seems to vary by community.

 

[dusty88]

They certainly are NOT reclassifying flu deaths as Covid deaths if that is what you are implying!!

https://twitter.com/MicahPollak/status/1256982858486427648 (Micah Pollak, IU Northwest)

I don't know what the recorded 2020 flu deaths are. Those normally are not updated quickly the way Covid is now. It's a reasonable assumption that flu numbers are down because the same measures being taken to slow Covid would likely slow flu transmission.

 

[jamil]

I would also look at states who have driven the curve down (or not). Unfortunately there is no way to isolate one action (like masks) from other actions (like voluntary or mandated decline in gatherings) to have absolute proof of the contribution of widespread mask use. Even with mandates, the practice seems to vary by community.

If a compliance rate is available for all the mitigations, a multi-factor analysis could be done that assesses masks role in it. Because each state has different priorities on things, I think the US is in a unique place to have that kind of data. I don't think it's fair to just point at Asian countries and say it's the use of masks when other factors shared among Asian communties besides that could have played more of a role.

 

[jamil]

https://twitter.com/MicahPollak/status/1256982858486427648 (Micah Pollak, IU Northwest)

I don't know what the recorded 2020 flu deaths are. Those normally are not updated quickly the way Covid is now. It's a reasonable assumption that flu numbers are down because the same measures being taken to slow Covid would likely slow flu transmission.

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Now hold on a cotton-pickin' minute. I was promised that this was just the flu.