The Republican Primary Race Is Filling Up

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Voting to eliminate the privacy of all American citizens along with voting to indefinitely detain them, without trail... I doubt that's just "playing ball."

Those are pretty harsh authoritarian things. They will inevitably lead to the loss of our 2A rights without having to touch any firearms laws.

It's hard to call that progressive, in fact I'm pretty sure the progressives are actively fighting against such things.

Hey, if we're going to talk about specific issues, I'm up for that. Like I said, I don't get much out of grading every single vote.

I sense we have a difference in the understanding of the term progressive. Correct me if I'm wrong. Progressivism, in my imprecise definition is basically one who desires socialism but is willing to implement it progressively. They are content to evolve into socialism or even communism because they know revolutionary change will not set with Americans -- at least it didn't used to.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

The Donald is sure one fickle *****. Now, Cruz would be an acceptable pick for VP?

Trump Just Said who he is Considering for VP Pick, and it's Blowing Minds...

 

[BugI02]

Tombs, as I posted a while back in another thread:

"A good start would be pledging your government, if elected, would cleave to Article 1 Section 8 and the Tenth Ammendment of The Constitution and that if elected you would move with all deliberate speed to extricate the Federal Government from areas rightly the province of the states or the people"

I kind of get caring fatigue when I have to parse candidates 'nuanced' positions - such as what to make of Cruz supporting and voting for the USA Freedom Act, which I see as Patriot Act Lite. With the decline and fall of candidate Paul I see the loss of the only truly unambiguous pro-Liberty candidate in the field. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I see the $18 trillion in debt as a huge problem going forward and , picking on Cruz again, he wants to persue a path that requires an ammendment to the constitution to make any headway - not exactly a pathway likely to lead to bold and decisive change in the way gov't is run. I have read on Cruz's own official website that he wants to eliminate ABCs (Agencies, Bureaus and Commisions) and he has a list of 25 candidates. But, ominously the BATFE is not among them (and should be). I really don't know what to make of some of the remaining candidates. I just know that Hitlery is absolute evil and Sanders shills for a discredited system (socialism) that always leads to drastically less freedom when implemented. As I've stated many times first and foremost I'm for any R that winds up at the head of my ballot because the alternatives are just too horrible to contemplate.

If you don't mind me asking, who has garnered your support in the field (as it exists today)

 

[jamil]

Here's a couple of political adds.

From Cristy, worth watching twice even though I don't like either that candidate who put it out or the channel it's aired on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdtNqnJdem8&feature=youtu.be

I'm thinking that endorsement is not working out the way Rubio thought.

And Cruz using Jimuh : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1tIH5XhXa0

All these years and Jimuh still can't learn to keep his mouth shut. I remember in the '70's watching him declassify programs on the evening news...hey wasn't that TS this morning?

Probably the Democrats won't want to use the "name one accomplishment" argument if it's a Rubio vs. Clinton race. It will only point out the fact that a person as young as Rubio has a better excuse for not getting anything done. She had 4 years to do something as Secretary of State, and her accomplishments there aren't exactly positive.

On Jimmy, eh, he's kinda irrelevant. His "endorsement" isn't really a loss or win.

 

[Tombs]

The Donald is sure one fickle *****. Now, Cruz would be an acceptable pick for VP?

Trump Just Said who he is Considering for VP Pick, and it's Blowing Minds...

I'll reply to both your posts with this.

So about Trump and Cruz. Is it really that hard to understand where Trump is coming from? He's repeatedly said he this kind of stuff is just business and isn't taken personal. He still calls em out on their BS though. Cruz's campaign did do something pretty stupid, they came out an apologized, and Trump seems to have left it at that.

Now regarding progressives... There's 2 different kinds of progressives.
There's the normal progressive, which pushes for advancements in science, culture, and politics...

And there's the BS progressives that believe every minority is an oppressed little snowflake that needs big government handouts, and that if you disagree you're a mean old bigot and a racist. The former isn't a bad thing at all, the latter is what we see from the democrat party.

I don't believe it's necessary for advancements in politics to equate to socialism, just advancing to what actually is proving to work better for that nation without bias.

Tombs, as I posted a while back in another thread:

"A good start would be pledging your government, if elected, would cleave to Article 1 Section 8 and the Tenth Ammendment of The Constitution and that if elected you would move with all deliberate speed to extricate the Federal Government from areas rightly the province of the states or the people"

I kind of get caring fatigue when I have to parse candidates 'nuanced' positions - such as what to make of Cruz supporting and voting for the USA Freedom Act, which I see as Patriot Act Lite. With the decline and fall of candidate Paul I see the loss of the only truly unambiguous pro-Liberty candidate in the field. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I see the $18 trillion in debt as a huge problem going forward and , picking on Cruz again, he wants to persue a path that requires an ammendment to the constitution to make any headway - not exactly a pathway likely to lead to bold and decisive change in the way gov't is run. I have read on Cruz's own official website that he wants to eliminate ABCs (Agencies, Bureaus and Commisions) and he has a list of 25 candidates. But, ominously the BATFE is not among them (and should be). I really don't know what to make of some of the remaining candidates. I just know that Hitlery is absolute evil and Sanders shills for a discredited system (socialism) that always leads to drastically less freedom when implemented. As I've stated many times first and foremost I'm for any R that winds up at the head of my ballot because the alternatives are just too horrible to contemplate.

If you don't mind me asking, who has garnered your support in the field (as it exists today)

I've been pulling for Trump since he announced that he would run, and crossing my fingers hoping he would run since he first started toying with the idea long ago.

Do your homework on the candidates, aside from Paul, he's the best chance liberty loving people can ask for in this election. I'm taking him at his word until he gives me good reason not to. If you read his policy listing on his site, I have a hard time seeing why anyone on ingo wouldn't be supporting him.

Ideally, I want a Trump/Cruz or Trump/Paul ticket.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I'll reply to both your posts with this.

So about Trump and Cruz. Is it really that hard to understand where Trump is coming from? He's repeatedly said he this kind of stuff is just business and isn't taken personal. He still calls em out on their BS though. Cruz's campaign did do something pretty stupid, they came out an apologized, and Trump seems to have left it at that.

Now regarding progressives... There's 2 different kinds of progressives.
There's the normal progressive, which pushes for advancements in science, culture, and politics...

And there's the BS progressives that believe every minority is an oppressed little snowflake that needs big government handouts, and that if you disagree you're a mean old bigot and a racist. The former isn't a bad thing at all, the latter is what we see from the democrat party.

I don't believe it's necessary for advancements in politics to equate to socialism, just advancing to what actually is proving to work better for that nation without bias.



I've been pulling for Trump since he announced that he would run, and crossing my fingers hoping he would run since he first started toying with the idea long ago.

Do your homework on the candidates, aside from Paul, he's the best chance liberty loving people can ask for in this election.

I'd encourage you to read the tweets and articles related to Cruz-gate. Trump is the one blowing that up and Ben Carson's inept campaign is to blame for this, in my opinion.

With regard to your progressive comments, the science and technology for better living stuff is the definition they'd like for you to believe they're all about. When in reality, progressives are all about using government to control our lives. They'll use science (like climate change, seat belts save lives, etc.) as a lever to bring about and enhance their nanny state objectives but none of them will use the Constitution as a basis-- in fact they are at best, indifferent and many are out right scornful of the restraints the constitution places on their desires to shape society.

 

[Tombs]

I'd encourage you to read the tweets and articles related to Cruz-gate. Trump is the one blowing that up and Ben Carson's inept campaign is to blame for this, in my opinion.

I'm well aware Trump is a twitter maniac.

I have to give him a bit of a pass on that, because sitting on a plane for that many hours out of the week completely absorbed in politics with the easiest way on earth to make a fool out of yourself is pretty forgivable lol.

If he was the type that only released very controlled, campaign reviewed comments here and there on twitter, it'd be a different matter.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I'm well aware Trump is a twitter maniac.

I have to give him a bit of a pass on that, because sitting on a plane for that many hours out of the week completely absorbed in politics with the easiest way on earth to make a fool out of yourself is pretty forgivable lol.

If he was the type that only released very controlled, campaign reviewed comments here and there on twitter, it'd be a different matter.

No, I'm talking about all the ones posted that led to Cruz's (and Rubio's) people to justifiably assume anybody going home for 2/7ths of a week before the next primary election, without any published campaign events/appearance, with a weak argument of "having to get fresh clothes", might just be about ready to bail out.

 

[Tombs]

No, I'm talking about all the ones posted that led to Cruz's (and Rubio's) people to justifiably assume anybody going home for 2/7ths of a week before the next primary election, without any published campaign events/appearance, with a weak argument of "having to get fresh clothes", might just be about ready to bail out.

I see where they are coming from, but I still don't believe they were in the right to make an assumption and try to funnel off his potential voters by misleading them.

Had he released an (clear) official statement that he was dropping out of the race, it'd be a different matter. As it stands, it's more or less capitalizing on someone's political inexperience.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Wow, Jindal just endored Rubio. Didn't see that coming.

Hope Rubio promised him a spot on the administration.... Jindal would be excellent to help work on the Obamacare replacement, or education reform.


http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/268471-jindal-endorses-rubio

Countdown to Walker endorsing Rubio?

Edit: Or possibly Jindal as VP?


Here's the Five-Thirty Eight endorsement race

 

[BugI02]

I see where they are coming from, but I still don't believe they were in the right to make an assumption and try to funnel off his potential voters by misleading them.

Had he released an (clear) official statement that he was dropping out of the race, it'd be a different matter. As it stands, it's more or less capitalizing on someone's political inexperience.

And it smacks of a little desperation on Cruz's part to pull of a win

 

[jamil]

The only possible real value I can see for endorsements is from candidates who can give their delegates to the candidate they endorse after bowing out. Every other endorsement is for the silly purpose of making more like a high school popularity contest. We really shouldn't give two lousy ****s about which candidate Jindal supports.

Wow, Jindal just endored Rubio. Didn't see that coming.

Hope Rubio promised him a spot on the administration.... Jindal would be excellent to help work on the Obamacare replacement, or education reform.


Jindal endorses Rubio for president | TheHill

Countdown to Walker endorsing Rubio?

Edit: Or possibly Jindal as VP?


Here's the Five-Thirty Eight endorsement race

 

[ArcadiaGP]

John Kasich: I'd be the worst vice president - POLITICO

 

[bwframe]

John Kasich: I'd be the worst vice president - POLITICO

I heard his name mentioned today as a VP pick (because we need Ohio.) Made me cringe.

 

[UglyAmerican]

What kind of crappy image uploader does this forum have? I can't even resize the damn thing.

 

[BogWalker]

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What kind of crappy image uploader does this forum have? I can't even resize the damn thing.

Did you copy it as a URL? Works best to save the image to your computer, run it through TinyPic, and then copy past the forum image link it gives you.

 

[Tombs]

On this ad before the debate starts, the candidates were saying how they prepare for debates...

Jeb Bush said, "I call my mother for advice."

Such a sad pathetic man, first he has to ask audiences to clap for him, then he has to call his mommy to save him from Trump.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Rubio, please stop.

 

[Tombs]

Rubio, please stop.

I can't stand Christie, but it's pretty hilarious watching him chew Rubio a new one in a matter of seconds.

 

[printcraft]

Recap? I'm not watching.