The Insane "Social Justice" Thread II

[ArcadiaGP]

I thought "the r-word" was "racist".


Oh, and my wife hates when I sing along, and use the original lyrics, with the Walmart back-to-school commercial using The Black Eyed Peas song, "Let's Get It Started."

I've been catching some TV shows that aired barely 10 years ago that still said "retarded". Makes me laugh... then makes me sad to see how fast this SJW nonsense happened.

I'm still pissed that Q95 took "******" out of Dire Straits "Money for Nothing"

Edit: .... Did someone just recently censor "******" on the forum? I thought it was uncensored... even like a month or two ago.

Edit2: Ah, nevermind, it's the abbreviated version that still works.

 

[jamil]

Tom Arnold: Trump called his son Eric ‘the r-word’ in a tape

Start getting the impeachment rolling.

Seriously? Are they going to try and say "retard" is as bad as "the n-word".

Going after people for words again. This feels familiar.

Spread the word to end the r-word. It’s a thing. Its virtue points are worth just as much as any.

 

[HoughMade]

Do you know how hard it was to start my tractor until I got the timimg properly r-worded?

 

[femurphy77]

****.

****.

****.

****.

**********.

Mother****er.

****.

Just wondering if this list is still valid.

 

[JettaKnight]

OK, I get it... the word was moved to naughty step primarily from misuse. Probably not a bad thing.

Once it gained wide use in a derogatory fashion, as in, "you're retarded" or, "that's retarded" it was destined for the trash heap of words. You just can't have a word that serves as both an insult and as a neutral description of a person. (well, maybe "blonde")


What's the preferred replacement when referring to a person?

 

[HoughMade]

OK, I get it... the word was moved to naughty step primarily from misuse. Probably not a bad thing.

Once it gained wide use in a derogatory fashion, as in, "you're retarded" or, "that's retarded" it was destined for the trash heap of words. You just can't have a word that serves as both an insult and as a neutral description of a person. (well, maybe "blonde")

What's the preferred replacement when referring to a person?

A person who was described as "retarded"...in a non-derogatory way 20 years ago may be called cognitively disabled, developmentally disabled, cognitively impaired, developmentally impaired....

In a derogatory fashion, I've prefered "brainstem" for years....and the anencephalic community has yet to say a word about it.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Spread the word to end the r-word. It’s a thing. Its virtue points are worth just as much as any.

I hope everyone realizes this only leaves 24 more words we can ban and then refer to it by "[one letter]-word".

 

[ArcadiaGP]

OK, I get it... the word was moved to naughty step primarily from misuse. Probably not a bad thing.

Once it gained wide use in a derogatory fashion, as in, "you're retarded" or, "that's retarded" it was destined for the trash heap of words. You just can't have a word that serves as both an insult and as a neutral description of a person. (well, maybe "blonde")

Sure you can.

Words evolve to take on new meanings all the time. Doesn't matter if it's innocent or insulting.

People calling situations and things "retarded" aren't thinking about the mental capacity of the thing.

People saying a situation is "lit" or "fire" aren't describing the temperature.

How about fam, woke, squad, shade, thirsty, savage, salty, bounce, dead... none of which use their literal meanings with millennial.

 

[printcraft]

Ironically I found this a few weeks ago while cleaning out the Heidelberg letterpress...

Nothing derogatory about it. Just hurt feels.

 

[JettaKnight]

Sure you can.

Words evolve to take on new meanings all the time. Doesn't matter if it's innocent or insulting.

People calling situations and things "retarded" aren't thinking about the mental capacity of the thing.

People saying a situation is "lit" or "fire" aren't describing the temperature.

How about fam, woke, squad, shade, thirsty, savage, salty, bounce, dead... none of which use their literal meanings with millennial.

All of your examples aren't both derogatory and a descriptively neutral term applied to a person. Furthermore, most of them aren't even insulting (save salty).

So, you're merely describing that the meanings of words change; which this word geek already knows.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

All of your examples aren't both derogatory and a descriptively neutral term applied to a person. Furthermore, most of them aren't even insulting (save salty).

So, you're merely describing that the meanings of words change; which this word geek already knows.

Right, just examples of words that don't mean what some take them to mean.

When I call the situation of being killed in Overwatch "****ing retarded"... I'm not insulting anyone. Not even the person that killed me. Hell, if anything, maybe I'm referring to myself for being so bad.

Isn't it your choice to take offense by the word? Or make it into something it isn't for the purpose of saying it isn't "okay"?

There are two ways to use it, I think. Obviously it's become a less-than-acceptable way to refer to someone with disabilities... and to refer to that sort of person in that way is a very ****ty thing to do.

Perhaps when it was retired from the "medical sense", it took on a new meaning and home in the other sense.

 

[JettaKnight]

Ironically I found this a few weeks ago while cleaning out the Heidelberg letterpress...

That's not ironic, it's coincidental.

Nothing derogatory about it. Just hurt feels.

No, in that context it's purely a neutral descriptor.


The problem arose later on to it's zenith in the 80's, when it just became a pejorative term.


My guess, is that some people used "retarded" as a kid to insult others, then they grew up, had a daughter with mental issues that would be described in 1968 as retarded. Thus, the problem - this word carries a certain visceral meaning to them that they find offensive.


While "retarded" may be an accurate and historical description to some, it's offensive to some, even those that aren't SJW. And there's plenty of other descriptors that are perfectly valid. Personally, this is something I need to prove I'm right about, so I'm fine with avoiding the word in general.



On the other hand, if make its use as a descriptor of people archaic, well, maybe we can allow its new definition, as we do for both "dumb" and "stupid".

 

[jamil]

OK, I get it... the word was moved to naughty step primarily from misuse. Probably not a bad thing.

Once it gained wide use in a derogatory fashion, as in, "you're retarded" or, "that's retarded" it was destined for the trash heap of words. You just can't have a word that serves as both an insult and as a neutral description of a person. (well, maybe "blonde")


What's the preferred replacement when referring to a person?

Rather than banning words, how about dealing with the *******s?

 

[jamil]

This conversation is retarded.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

On the other hand, if make its use as a descriptor of people archaic, well, maybe we can allow its new definition, as we do for both "dumb" and "stupid".

You're not far off on that... There exist a non-zero number of people that think those words that we find so innocent, like dumb and stupid, are "ableist slurs"... to which I say, "that's retarded."

Calling something dumb and stupid is so tame... and I think "retarded" should be just as acceptable on that same level... but it's being singled out.

I bet there was a time that "dumb" and "stupid" was considered something sensitive to say out loud.

 

[indiucky]

So, you're merely describing that the meanings of words change; which this word geek already knows.

A buddy of mine is married to a well known thoroughbred trainer...They had a horse running in the Derby and he invited his buddy John Fagget to come to the backside of the track...He said he would meet at the entrance and bring him back...He see's him in the crowd and begins yelling "JOHN!!!" and of course there are many named John and his buddy wasn't responding...He cringed and yelled "FAGGET!!!!" Glares all around....He said he had to yell it a couple of times before his buddy finally heard him...He said they got glares all day...

 

[jamil]

That's not ironic, it's coincidental.




No, in that context it's purely a neutral descriptor.


The problem arose later on to it's zenith in the 80's, when it just became a pejorative term.


My guess, is that some people used "retarded" as a kid to insult others, then they grew up, had a daughter with mental issues that would be described in 1968 as retarded. Thus, the problem - this word carries a certain visceral meaning to them that they find offensive.


While "retarded" may be an accurate and historical description to some, it's offensive to some, even those that aren't SJW. And there's plenty of other descriptors that are perfectly valid. Personally, this is something I need to prove I'm right about, so I'm fine with avoiding the word in general.



On the other hand, if make its use as a descriptor of people archaic, well, maybe we can allow its new definition, as we do for both "dumb" and "stupid".

There’s nothing wrong with the word. The thing that’s wrong is people using it to disparage people with special needs. Banning words is retarded.

 

[printcraft]

A buddy of mine is married to a well known thoroughbred trainer...They had a horse running in the Derby and he invited his buddy John Fagget to come to the backside of the track...He said he would meet at the entrance and bring him back...He see's him in the crowd and begins yelling "JOHN!!!" and of course there are many named John and his buddy wasn't responding...He cringed and yelled "FAGGET!!!!" Glares all around....He said he had to yell it a couple of times before his buddy finally heard him...He said they got glares all day...

What a bundle of sticks...

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Just because.

[video=youtube;ZC1Pdsppch4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC1Pdsppch4[/video]

 

[indiucky]

There’s nothing wrong with the word. The thing that’s wrong is people using it to disparage people with special needs. Banning words is retarded.

As the parent of an Autistic special needs daughter I think banning words is retarded..