The Democrat Primary Race Is Filling Up

[Leadeye]

Why don't we give the candidates a running start....from say, 150 meters. And give voters a .308 with one cartridge?

Nah, that's too much like the Vince Foster lottery......

Thunderdome!

 

[Leadeye]

Here is the entire quote from the little man...

"The agrarian society lasted 3,000 years and we could teach processes. I could teach anybody, even people in this room, no offense intended, to be a farmer," Bloomberg said. "It's a process. You dig a hole, you put a seed in, you put dirt on top, add water, up comes the corn. You could learn that. Then we had 300 years of the industrial society. You put the piece of metal on the lathe, you turn the crank in the direction of the arrow and you can have a job. And we created a lot of jobs. At one point, 98 percent of the world worked in agriculture, now it's 2 percent in the United States."

"Now comes the information economy and the information economy is fundamentally different because it's built around replacing people with technology and the skill sets that you have to learn are how to think and analyze, and that is a whole degree level different. You have to have a different skill set, you have to have a lot more gray matter. It's not clear the teachers can teach or the students can learn, and so the challenge of society of finding jobs for these people, who we can take care of giving them a roof over their head and a meal in their stomach and a cell phone and a car and that sort of thing. But the thing that is the most important, that will stop them from setting up a guillotine someday, is the dignity of a job"

He has studied and fears the consequences of a "French Revolution." I wonder if that's the foundation of his gun control philosophy. He sees himself in the role of the aristocrat.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

But letting Women vote is what started this whole mess in the first place.

LOL... I’ve got a friend that had a prepared tirade on this exact subject whenever it would come up. I wish I could do it justice.

 

[Karl-just-Karl]

He has studied and fears the consequences of a "French Revolution." I wonder if that's the foundation of his gun control philosophy. He sees himself in the role of the aristocrat.

So it is Bloomberg's take that most people are too stupid to be part of the "information economy" and government has to be there to help the idiots feel useful so they don't rise up against the people that have, "a lot more gray matter"?

Bread, circuses... and cake.

 

[KittySlayer]

Bread, circuses... and cake.

I don't think I care for the flavor of cake they are serving us deplorables.

 

[Alpo]

I don't think I care for the flavor of cake they are serving us deplorables.

Looks like one of The Hulk's breath mints.

 

[Ingomike]

And the Bloomberg hist just keep coming...

"Mike Bloomberg: All of these costs keep going up. Nobody wants to pay anymore money. And at the rate we’re going healthcare is going to bankrupt us. So not only do we have a problem we’ve got to sit here and say which things we’re going to do and which things we’re not. Nobody wants to do that. If you show up with prostrate cancer and you’re 95 years old, we should say go and enjoy, you’ve had a long life, there’s no cure and we can’t do anything. If you’re a young person, we should do something about it. Society’s not willing to do that, yet.”

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[nonobaddog]

Would his no-treatment-let-'em-die crap apply to him too or just to the pee-ons?

 

[BugI02]

Would his no-treatment-let-'em-die crap apply to him too or just to the pee-ons?

Think Congressional medical coverage vs Obamacare. The rich and powerful will always reserve nothing but the best for themselves

 

[Doug]

Bloomberg and the other very rich would be able to buy any care the Government didn't provide.

In the end, social security and health insurance will be means tested.
You get neither if your income or net worth is above the national average.
When you're no better off than anyone else, you get the benefits they get.

 

[JettaKnight]

And the Bloomberg hits just keep coming...

"Mike Bloomberg: All of these costs keep going up. Nobody wants to pay anymore money. And at the rate we’re going healthcare is going to bankrupt us. So not only do we have a problem we’ve got to sit here and say which things we’re going to do and which things we’re not. Nobody wants to do that. If you show up with prostrate cancer and you’re 95 years old, we should say go and enjoy, you’ve had a long life, there’s no cure and we can’t do anything. If you’re a young person, we should do something about it. Society’s not willing to do that, yet.”

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If I was 95, and had prostate cancer, ain't no way I'd want to go through treatment for that.



In a way, he's right. Rational, logic, common sense, market forces... all things not commonly found in the US healthcare market. What I don't see in this quote, so I can't infer it, is a statement that the Govt is going to set rules on treatment.



Radiolab did an interesting piece - "what's one more year of life worth?"
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/episodes/worth

Would his no-treatment-let-'em-die crap apply to him too or just to the pee-ons?

If you've got the money to pay cash for medical services, well, have at it!


But if you're on Medicare, or something else...


Just because the enemy this time is Bloomberg, I'm not adopting socialist ideas.

 

[JettaKnight]

Think Congressional medical coverage vs Obamacare. The rich and powerful will always reserve nothing but the best for themselves

проповедуй, товарищ!

 

[Doug]

There were to be no "death panels" under Obamacare.
After a certain age, patients would receive only palliative care (keep the patient comfortable while he dies) unless a special committee decided the patient should receive treatment designed to keep them alive.
Death was the default decision after a certain age (they suggested 70); it would require action by a "life panel" to keep you alive.

 

[BugI02]

проповедуй, товарищ!

are you in the choir?

 

[Doug]

 

[MCgrease08]

And the Bloomberg hist just keep coming...

"Mike Bloomberg: All of these costs keep going up. Nobody wants to pay anymore money. And at the rate we’re going healthcare is going to bankrupt us. So not only do we have a problem we’ve got to sit here and say which things we’re going to do and which things we’re not. Nobody wants to do that. If you show up with prostrate cancer and you’re 95 years old, we should say go and enjoy, you’ve had a long life, there’s no cure and we can’t do anything. If you’re a young person, we should do something about it. Society’s not willing to do that, yet.”

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Well he's right about the prostate cancer. Pretty sure the growth rate is so slow this is essentially what doctors do now.

 

[Phase2]

And the Bloomberg hist just keep coming...

Just imagine if he hadn't ordered the thousands of Bloomberg news media employees to stay away from investigating and publishing information about him.

If you show up with prostrate cancer and you’re 95 years old, we should say go and enjoy, you’ve had a long life, there’s no cure and we can’t do anything.

He couldn't help inserting an unnecessary lie as part of his message.

 

[Alpo]

As a semi-old guy, I agree that we spend too much money on procedures for the elderly. My mom was in her 90's. New heart valve. Stents in both legs. Back surgery. Peritoneal dialysis. She was a person who initially had a DNR....and then the docs told her about all the modern options to improve her quality of life.

At what cost? Hundreds of thousands, for sure. Maybe over a Million. In the end, she succumbed to an infection. Her last few months were pretty miserable.

I won't go that way. The expense. The pain. The worry. Just let me have a little dignity.

 

[BugI02]

But don't you want to be the one who call's 'time', not some bean counter trying to make monthly quota

 

[2A_Tom]

Jetta, it is not that any of us want socialized medicine. He does. He is tipping his hand about death panels, just like Obama.