The CZickness XLIII prepping for winter.

[wtburnette]

Morning all....

 

[bcannon]

Good morning gents

 

[patience0830]

Never been a fan of fakes, clones, or wannabes. Yes the Shadow 2 is quite pricey but it's one of CZs high end pistols and this Turkish wannabe just looks like a Kmart version. I rather save my pennys to get the real thing.

To each, his own. I've owned a clone or two over the years. Don't think any have stayed long term, but some of them were damn fine weapons.

 

[bcannon]

To each, his own. I've owned a clone or two over the years. Don't think any have stayed long term, but some of them were damn fine weapons.

Very true to each their own. Just throwing my two cents out there and that and $2 will get a two dallar bill.
Never owned a clone but glad some of yours turned out to be damn fine weapons.

 

[rkwhyte2]

Good morning all

 

[mcapo]

Morning!

I have/had lots of clones, 1911s, Rem700s, SAAs and on and on. One of my favorite clones is a Mauser clone called a Remington 1903. Just messin' with ya BC!

 

[88E30M50]

Morning folks!

Never been a fan of fakes, clones, or wannabes. Yes the Shadow 2 is quite pricey but it's one of CZs high end pistols and this Turkish wannabe just looks like a Kmart version. I rather save my pennys to get the real thing.

The one clone that I really regret letting go was the Armalite AR24K. It was a compact 75B clone that was very, very well built. It was heavy and both slide and frame were forged. That would have been a great one to have in the collection but I let it go for something, not sure what any more.

 

[bcannon]

Morning!

I have/had lots of clones, 1911s, Rem700s, SAAs and on and on. One of my favorite clones is a Mauser clone called a Remington 1903. Just messin' with ya BC!

Like what was said earlier, to each their own. Just not for me I guess.

 

[mcapo]

 

[Leadeye]

With some historical guns, a clone may be the only way to enjoy shooting them.

 

[mcapo]

Morning folks!



The one clone that I really regret letting go was the Armalite AR24K. It was a compact 75B clone that was very, very well built. It was heavy and both slide and frame were forged. That would have been a great one to have in the collection but I let it go for something, not sure what any more.

Those weren't actually made by Armalite? Heard of them, not sure I have ever seen one person?

EDIT: Amazing what five seconds of internet searching will tell you...

The ArmaLite AR-24 series were semi-automatic 9mm handguns, imported into the U.S. by Mark Westrom's incarnation of the ArmaLite brand during the mid-2000's. It was a re-branded Sarsılmaz Kılınç 2000, a Turkish made CZ 75 clone based on Tanfoglio's design improvements over the original CZ 75.

 

[bcannon]

With some historical guns, a clone may be the only way to enjoy shooting them.

I totally agree and understand why. With modern weapons though its normally tied to tight-ass syndrome or a quantity over quality sickness.

 

[RustyHornet]

I had a Sarsilmaz once before. Was a damn fine gun. Double stack .45 with a rail. K2? I don’t remember what they called it. I Cerakoted it Orange and sold it to Barry. Was a damn good shooter! Good quality too.

 

[T-DOGG]

Good Morning

Doctor Skinflint checking in....

 

[Leadeye]

It's interesting in old gun collecting that the most popular guns of an era are often the hardest to find and command the highest prices. Winchester made more 1873s in 44-40 than any other caliber, but try to find one in decent shape, it's hard. These were working guns going west and I suspect most just wore out and hit the scrap pile while those chambered in less popular calibers set in closets. Colt conversions were very popular after the civil war and were made up to and beyond the introduction of the SAA in 1873 as they were much less expensive, now nearly all are gone, probably just worked to death.

 

[88E30M50]

Those weren't actually made by Armalite? Heard of them, not sure I have ever seen one person?

EDIT: Amazing what five seconds of internet searching will tell you...

The ArmaLite AR-24 series were semi-automatic 9mm handguns, imported into the U.S. by Mark Westrom's incarnation of the ArmaLite brand during the mid-2000's. It was a re-branded Sarsılmaz Kılınç 2000, a Turkish made CZ 75 clone based on Tanfoglio's design improvements over the original CZ 75.

Yup, Turkish made. That pistol is what sold me on the ability of the Turks to produce a top notch gun. Internally, there were several improvements over the CZ design. Primarily, in how the trigger bar is lifted.

I saw this a couple of minutes ago and it has me pondering getting another

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/915838674

 

[mcapo]

Yup, Turkish made. That pistol is what sold me on the ability of the Turks to produce a top notch gun. Internally, there were several improvements over the CZ design. Primarily, in how the trigger bar is lifted.

I saw this a couple of minutes ago and it has me pondering getting another

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/915838674

I fully support this decision.

This day must end in a "Y" as those are the only days that this thread costs someone money.

Even thought its just a consideration for you, I think you can make note that this one was t-doggs fault. :-)

 

[88E30M50]

I had a Sarsilmaz once before. Was a damn fine gun. Double stack .45 with a rail. K2? I don’t remember what they called it. I Cerakoted it Orange and sold it to Barry. Was a damn good shooter! Good quality too.

You sold that to me, then I sold it back to you again. It was a great gun. Also, a great big gun.

 

[mcapo]

It's interesting in old gun collecting that the most popular guns of an era are often the hardest to find and command the highest prices. Winchester made more 1873s in 44-40 than any other caliber, but try to find one in decent shape, it's hard. These were working guns going west and I suspect most just wore out and hit the scrap pile while those chambered in less popular calibers set in closets. Colt conversions were very popular after the civil war and were made up to and beyond the introduction of the SAA in 1873 as they were much less expensive, now nearly all are gone, probably just worked to death.

One of my favorite guns is a maple stocked Ohio Long Rifle - probably 1850's -kinda a short version of a Kentucky long rifle. The gun stock has wear at the grip from years and years of regular use and the internals are just flat wore out.

I always imagine some Ohioian feeding his family with the gun until it was worn out and then got his fancy repeater after the civil war.

Don't know but that's my story.

 

[RustyHornet]

You sold that to me, then I sold it back to you again. It was a great gun. Also, a great big gun.

I don’t even remember that! I know it ended up Orange and with Barry in the end lol.