The [Current Year] General Political/Salma Hayek discussion thread, part 4!!!

[printcraft]

But, the national party may just be that myopic.

I think they are.

She is going to drive republicans to turn out to vote like no other.

Biden is the best bet realistically, he would get all of the dem votes, a large portion of independents and most of the never Trump votes.
Hell the BUSH family voted for hitlary, what does that tell you?

Biden wouldn’t energize the “anti” votes.

 

[Kutnupe14]

The coast-centric/fly-over-country-denying tone of that article is insightful. If she pursues that strategy again, the midwestern Dems (who, generally, are pretty reasonable people IMHO), will be left looking for another option. Or just stay home after the primary.

But, the national party may just be that myopic.

Beto.... if he runs, end of story. I doubt Clinton has the traction to succeed.

 

[T.Lex]

I think they are.

She is going to drive republicans to turn out to vote like no other.

Biden is the best bet realistically, he would get all of the dem votes, a large portion of independents and most of the never Trump votes.

Oy vey, he's better than HRC - kinda a Dem redux of Reagan.

But, in terms of actually trying to win, they have to go younger. Someone more like Kaine, without actually being Kaine.

I'm not sold on Beto. As GPsiahffushgfiusnvudsn pointed out, he lost to the Republicans' runner-up. Someone like him, who's actually won recently, would have a better chance.

 

[bwframe]

Ya'll don't think Booker and Harris are gonna just stand by and let all this happen do you?

 

[T.Lex]

Ya'll don't think Booker and Harris are gonna just stand by and let all this happen do you?

Indeed - they'll want to be considered, or be offered something to stand down. Either of them would be more popular with the modern electorate than HRC, I think.

 

[bwframe]

Not to forget Bernie and Pocahontas...

 

[T.Lex]

Not to forget Bernie and Pocahontas...

Bernie is a good figurehead at this point (for them), but not nationally electable IMHO.

Warren... well... IMHO she's only marginally better than HRC for the Dems.

Part of the problem is that the national Dem party isn't as unified as we like to think. Not like they used to be. They are really fractured but whole.


(Love that joke.)

 

[bwframe]

What about that Arizona hottie that looks as if she'll beat Martha McSally for Flake's seat? Isn't a win for her due to thrust her into the new dem rockstar status?

What about Flake for that matter? Maybe a Flake/Corker dem ticket ([STRIKE]in memory of McCain[/STRIKE])?

 

[T.Lex]

Yeah, I think there are a bunch of combinations that could get interesting. It is reminiscent of the pre-2016 Republican primary debacle. I think the difference will be that the Republicans had a relatively narrow range of ideology (Trump notwithstanding). The Dems could get a very wide difference between middle of the road and unabashed progressives/socialists.

It could be a generational pivot for them.

 

[bwframe]

Yeah, I think there are a bunch of combinations that could get interesting. It is reminiscent of the pre-2016 Republican primary debacle. I think the difference will be that the Republicans had a relatively narrow range of ideology (Trump notwithstanding). The Dems could get a very wide difference between middle of the road and unabashed progressives/socialists.

It could be a generational pivot for them.

Swalwell/Avenatti 2020

Endless supply of them that are threatening to run over there.



Maybe some of our lefty oriented INGOers ought to start a dem ticket for 2020?
Convince those folks to abandon that silly dem gun control platform???

 

[Leadeye]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-will-run-again-1541963599

WSJ basically endorsing HRC for a POTUS run in 2020.

Notwithstanding a couple failures of logic within the article itself, that would be a truly horrendous exercise for the DNC. Sure, Trump's numbers aren't great in the traditional sense, but coming off the midterms in which he flexed his political muscle and proved he had his own national machine, the Dems would be handing him another 4 years (if he wants it).

The only thing that MIGHT make sense is that they think HRC can beat Pence. And I'm even dubious of that.

She is the logical candidate for 2020 when you look at all the forces in play. That Beto guy might give her a run for her money assuming he isn't bought off or killed. I don't think Biden wants to square off against Hillary, and that's what it's going to be, in 2020. It will be a crowded field at first but will slim down quickly as a lot of people will figure they can beat President Trump, and will get squashed or bought off by the machine.

 

[Alpo]

I don't think Hill is physically capable of another run. Rumors of

 

[Expat]

Perino has been saying on the Five that she estimates the Dems will start out with about 35 candidates.
How much time would each get in a debate, a minute or two? Can you imagine the depths they would sink to make a clip worthy comment. It could be entertaining.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Perino has been saying on the Five that she estimates the Dems will start out with about 35 candidates.
How much time would each get in a debate, a minute or two? Can you imagine the depths they would sink to make a clip worthy comment. It could be entertaining.

As they try to out run each other to the left, will any of them try to appear centrist and sane (by comparison)?

 

[T.Lex]

As they try to out run each other to the left, will any of them try to appear centrist and sane (by comparison)?

I think there will be centrists in the mix, at least in the beginning. Much depends on which rules the DNC wants to use for their primaries.

 

[printcraft]

I think there will be centrists in the mix, at least in the beginning. Much depends on which rules the DNC wants to use for their primaries.

LULZ

Again, they should just announce their chosen candidate, I don't think they want a repeat of 2016 and the reaming they gave bernie.

 

[T.Lex]

LULZ

Again, they should just announce their chosen candidate, I don't think they want a repeat of 2016 and the reaming they gave bernie.

hahaha

That's part of the problem - they shouldn't have a chosen candidate. The process needs to be perceived as fair by a majority of participants. They sure didn't end up with that feeling.

The current head is an Obama guy (Perez?), so I don't think the deck will be loaded in favor of HRC or any of their proxies.

 

[Leadeye]

Perino has been saying on the Five that she estimates the Dems will start out with about 35 candidates.
How much time would each get in a debate, a minute or two? Can you imagine the depths they would sink to make a clip worthy comment. It could be entertaining.

The Democrat Presidential primary will look like the WWE. Even more entertaining to see Spartacus and Pocahontas, maybe even the new socialist from NY.

 

[Hawkeye]

The Democrat Presidential primary will look like the WWE. Even more entertaining to see Spartacus and Pocahontas, maybe even the new socialist from NY.

I don’t think Occasional-Cortex is old enough in 2020. Isn’t she something like 28 now?


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[bwframe]

I don’t think Occasional-Cortex is old enough in 2020. Isn’t she something like 28 now?

The more they are unknown (and young,) the more promising they look. That Texas senate race loser is another example.