The [Current Year] General Political/Salma Hayek discussion thread, part 4!!!

[jamil]

Bringing sight to the blind?

Is this where the "Mean ole Kut talked bad about Trump, so now we're going to attack him personally" kicks in?

Well. You kinda called people blind, so...

It doesn't have to escalate.

 

[jamil]

Oh no, not that nutcase. It would be a respected member of the clergy. Max Von Sydow?

Well. He played one on TV so prolly as legit as any who'd actually think exorcising "the Trump" out of someone is rational.

 

[jamil]

I'm in a better place now than I have ever been, so I have zero problems with the way Trump has been steering the ship.

I like what he's been doing with regulations. I like the tax cuts but I want to see the individual tax cuts made permanent by further cuts to spending. The economy is rockin' now, which I think has a lot to do with government GTF outta the way. I like the extent to which the part of where he tells the press like it is is actually accurate. The press, particularly far left press is very dishonest in what and how they report news. Some, outright fabricate news. I'm on-board with some immigration policies, but not all the way.

And that's pretty much the good things I can think about Trump. Though he's right about a lot of fake news, he also calls things that are accurate and negative about him, fake news. I don't like his crass talk. I don't like his eagerness to lie about stuff. Like when he said:

Anybody throwing stones, rocks, like they did to Mexico and the Mexican military, Mexican police, where they badly hurt police and soldiers of Mexico, we will consider that a firearm, because there's not much difference — when you get hit in the face with a rock, which as you know, that was very violent a few days ago. Very, very violent...When they throw rocks like they did at the Mexico military and police, I say, consider it a rifle.

And then Friday he tried to walk it back, saying he never said "shoot". Technically true, but not materially true. It's this kind of dishonesty that really hurts his credibility. I know Trumpers be excusin' that. But some people care about those things. And Trump could be much more successful if he'd take the power of the words of the president seriously. He just casually says stupid ****. That's how you talk when you're a wannabe billionaire playboy real estate tycoon and consequences of your thoughtless speech can easily be bought and paid for.

Trump could be a much better president. But he doesn't have to be better because his ardent followers don't care much about that stuff as long as he keeps insulting the enemy.

 

[jamil]

At least you admit, that as long as you or the group you identify with, personally benefit, to hell with everyone else.

That's exactly how it was with the Obama administration. That's what the fringes do. Yes. Obama was fringe left.

Now it's the other's turn. We're going to keep trading radical-in-chief until the middle figures out they far outnumber the fringes.

 

[printcraft]

Hacking! No not Russia.....https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/11/04/...tion-hacking-attempt-investigation/index.html

 

[bwframe]

 

[Spear Dane]

And at Trumps request. Wow.

 

[ghitch75]

 

[nonobaddog]

Seeyalaterbye - watch out for doorknobs.

 

[bwframe]

The press and the nevertrumpers are losing their minds. This is hilarious!

...Well I had them all out there steppin' an' a fetchin'
Like their heads were on fire and their asses was catchin'...

 

[jamil]

The press and the nevertrumpers are losing their minds. This is hilarious!

...Well I had them all out there steppin' an' a fetchin'
Like their heads were on fire and their asses was catchin'...

Or. They're the sane ones.

Either way.

 

[jamil]

Wondering why you guys have such a disdain for Sessions. Wasn't he Trumper enough? Was it that he didn't try to protect Trump Eric Holder style from investigations? I don't really get it. Seemed to me that he was doing okay, especially in terms of bringing some sanity to the administration at least in his corner of it.

 

[ghitch75]

Wondering why you guys have such a disdain for Sessions. Wasn't he Trumper enough? Was it that he didn't try to protect Trump Eric Holder style from investigations? I don't really get it. Seemed to me that he was doing okay, especially in terms of bringing some sanity to the administration at least in his corner of it.

i just think he is setting on his hands on a lot of stuff.....

 

[T.Lex]

Wondering why you guys have such a disdain for Sessions. Wasn't he Trumper enough? Was it that he didn't try to protect Trump Eric Holder style from investigations? I don't really get it. Seemed to me that he was doing okay, especially in terms of bringing some sanity to the administration at least in his corner of it.

Yeah, I'm with you on that.

I mean, I wouldn't hold him up as some sort of super duper awesome AG, but he seemed to be doing his level best to help Trump achieve policy goals within the bounds of the law.

 

[mmpsteve]

Wondering why you guys have such a disdain for Sessions. Wasn't he Trumper enough? Was it that he didn't try to protect Trump Eric Holder style from investigations? I don't really get it. Seemed to me that he was doing okay, especially in terms of bringing some sanity to the administration at least in his corner of it.

This is my response from the other thread. I need to take time for a more thoughtful response, but this was my initial reaction:

I havn't figured out multi-quoting, so I'll just say this: Many people had high hopes for Sessions when he was first announced as AG, especially the people of Alabama, who were proud of him. The day after he was sworn in as AG, he recused himself from the most important, attention grabbing circus of the next two years; the Mueller investigation, and everything encompassed by that, including the FBI incestuous garbage that we've all seen and been subjected to. I say incestuous because there's a long and storied history between all the players in this coup attempt to take down Trump; you'll have to do your research on that; I don't keep detailed lists of my own research. Sessions' failure was that he allowed all the BS to go on, and really couldn't intervene, due to the fact he had recused himself unnecessarily, over some routine meeting he had with some Russians, leading up to the election of Trump. The fact that he did so the day after he was sworn in, instead of telling Trump the day before, interests many people.

 

[T.Lex]

Uh... Trump has the power to end Mueller's investigation if he wants.

At this point, I don't think he wants to end it. It is a convenient bogeyman.

Any time he either needs a distraction or just wants to be back on the front page, he spins a wheel: immigrant issues, Mueller investigation, trade war, MSM as enemy of the people. Whichever one the arrow points to, that's what he tweets about. Unless he wants a different one, then he just spins again.

 

[nonobaddog]

There were almost 400,000 illegal border crossers that were caught in 2016. Nobody knows how many were not caught.
This should be controlled but now it won't be because the America-hating democraps actually want more invaders.

 

[Fargo]

There were almost 400,000 illegal border crossers that were caught in 2016. Nobody knows how many were not caught.
This should be controlled but now it won't be because the America-hating democraps actually want more invaders.

Which party has controlled both houses and the presidency for the last two years?

 

[Alpo]

the America-hating democraps actually want more invaders.

You sound just like Sarah Palin.

Can you see Mexico from your apartment?

 

[T.Lex]

You sound just like Sarah Palin.

Can you see Mexico from your apartment?

Apartment? Mom's basement.