I'm still trying to figure out the logic of throwing a flash bang into a suspected meth lab.
I've seen them back stopped against dry wall and they didn't do that. I'm certainly not trying to defend anyone or call anyone a liar but a flashbang did not cause the pictured damage to that drywall.
I still don't see that from the picture. Something much large than a FB or a FB pole crushed that drywall in. Maybe a Storm-Para-Trooper of death tripped while trying to stomp on the 12 year old and shouldered it in.
Subtract the grenade, and this still makes me sick. Nothing says "Land of the Free" like tens of thousands of no-knock raids every year, mostly for non-violent, victimless offenses.
Something much large than a FB or a FB pole crushed that drywall in
I still don't see that from the picture. Something much large than a FB or a FB pole crushed that drywall in. Maybe a Storm-Para-Trooper of death tripped while trying to stomp on the 12 year old and shouldered it in.
That's true, but flash-bangs and other less-than-lethal ordnance aren't.
Ask the Branch-Davidians...oh, wait, you can't.
The plain fact it should have never happen period ....
I don't recall disagreeing with that anywhere in this thread
looks like a pipe end shape hole to me from a flashbang boompole on a weak wall or your explanation below......
or these guys.......
Still doesn't explain the logic of throwing flash bangs into a suspected meth lab.I really tried to keep my mouth shut on this for a long time...really...I sat on my hands and everything but THIS HAS TO BE SAID...
When the media is involved you will never get the truth, just shaded twisted versions of that happened. It's like playing the "telephone" game with second graders. Allow me to give you an example...
Version 1: William and June are enjoying a quiet night in suburbia when an armed band of evil police destroy their front door, terrorize their family, and nearly burn their young daughter to death. Full story at 10:00
Version 2: Billy and JunieMay are workin on this weeks batch of meth, got the last of what they needed from the store today. Didn't notice the strange van down the street as they came and went. Billy heard cops at the door and headed for it while Junie ran around trying to hide their stuff. There was a big flash somewhere. They heard one of their girls crying in their room, forgot them kids were here tonight thought they were at Junie's momma's cousins house. Full story at 10:00
Can anyone see the point I am trying to make...???
A flashbang put a dent in a wall and blew out nails? Uhhhhhhhhh.... Geez, where do you get those? Hyperbole.
How is anyone making claims about this instance without know the intel that granted the warrant?
They had a warrant?
If they didn't, that's their collective a$$e$
The warrant was based on some hard evidence
did plenty of homework on the residence
They had one but what did it matter.
They found no drugs.
They found no meth lab.
LOL
Warrants mean nothing. They can find any judge to sign them nowdays.
Still doesn't explain the logic of throwing flash bangs into a suspected meth lab.