CathyInBlue
Grandmaster
Were any of them back-stopped by the body of a 12 year old sleeping girl?3. I've seen many a flashbang detonate up against drywall and I've never seen one do that.
Were any of them back-stopped by the body of a 12 year old sleeping girl?3. I've seen many a flashbang detonate up against drywall and I've never seen one do that.
I've seen them back stopped against dry wall and they didn't do that. I'm certainly not trying to defend anyone or call anyone a liar but a flashbang did not cause the pictured damage to that drywall.
I will defer to your experience and point out that the damage to the drywall being held up as an issue is analogous with writing up moving violations on a fleeing bank robber who killed a handful of people during the robbery.
There is plenty wrong with or without the hole in the wall.
Having been around this business and seen slanted/sensational reporting as much as I have, forgive me if when I see something as blatantly wrong as that photo I begin to question the validity of the other claims.
Not saying there aren't problems here, just not willing to be baited quite so easily. I'll stand by my earlier statements but as usual we have precious little information about what really took place.
Having been around this business and seen slanted/sensational reporting as much as I have, forgive me if when I see something as blatantly wrong as that photo I begin to question the validity of the other claims.
Not saying there aren't problems here, just not willing to be baited quite so easily. I'll stand by my earlier statements but as usual we have precious little information about what really took place.
"Not saying there aren't problems here, just not willing to be baited quite so easily. I'll stand by my earlier statements but as usual we have precious little information about what really took place."
Apparently neither did the investigating officers who conducted the raid! These so called "mistakes" are becoming all too frequent. SWAT should be reserved for hostage situations and individuals barricaded in secure locations. Why is it neccesary for a SWAT team to raid someone's home for drug posession? People should be screaming for SWAT Team restrictions! More innocents will perish until they do.
ALL SWAT TEAMS SHOULD BE LIT ON FIRE AND BURNED UNTIL THEY SMOLDER AS ASHES!!!!! DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!!
My understanding is that the only thing he is really calling false is the idea of the flash-bang blasting a hole in a wall. I was satisfied that he had previously addressed the need for better general methods to have been used. If nothing else, I take comfort in the fact that his SWAT team has not had problems of this nature which lends much credibility to his assessment.
I agree absolutely that the wave of horses**t of sending in SWAT teams any time they think they may actually know the location of a fugitive or worse yet kicking in the door on the wrong house (which seems to be the specialty of the house with the EPD SWAT team) needs to stop immediately. Further, there are plenty of departments which seem too irresponsible to have them at all. I also agree that there needs to be an unwavering public demand to have this problem solved, now.
Agreed. I think he should move to Evansville and be put in charge of our local Swat Team
I don't recall asking for anyone's trust.
Well then, you have no place serving the public. Trust is the core of every relationship.
Who do you serve? Do you care if those you say you serve trust you?
I'm still trying to figure out the logic of throwing a flash bang into a suspected meth lab.