So who was it drawing attention to themselves at Beech Grove H.S.?

[Frank_N_Stein]

this happened here in Greenfield last year at my daughter's school.
a man went to have lunch with his child. he was walking around the school with an empty holster on his hip.
a teacher called 911 to report MWAG. when the police came to investigate...they realized he had "innocently" locked his gun in his car, thinking that he was doing the right thing. obviously he was not...and he was charged with a felony.

"They" realized he had innocently locked his gun in his car, or he did?

 

[Tyler-The-Piker]

"innocently" was the way he tried to describe his actions to the police

 

[nakinate]

this happened here in Greenfield last year at my daughter's school.
a man went to have lunch with his child. he was walking around the school with an empty holster on his hip.
a teacher called 911 to report MWAG. when the police came to investigate...they realized he had "innocently" locked his gun in his car, thinking that he was doing the right thing. obviously he was not...and he was charged with a felony.

When it comes to that, even if you park off school property, why not remove your holster as well? It will save you lots of headaches.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

When it comes to that, even if you park off school property, why not remove your holster as well? It will save you lots of headaches.

The OWB holster I wear, a Raven Phantom, is a royal PAIN to don and doff. Seriously a royal pain.

It's a 5 min process to put it on, and more than a few mins to remove. That's a lot of work to be doing whilst standing next to a vehicle all while any number of folks can watch what I'm doing...

-J-

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

The OWB holster I wear, a Raven Phantom, is a royal PAIN to don and doff. Seriously a royal pain.

It's a 5 min process to put it on, and more than a few mins to remove. That's a lot of work to be doing whilst standing next to a vehicle all while any number of folks can watch what I'm doing...

-J-

So you'd rather leave it on and enter a "gun free zone" and see what happens?

 

[SteveM4A1]

I don't see what the big deal is. It's a holster.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

I don't see what the big deal is. It's a holster.

I don't want to see anyone lose their 2nd Amendment rights by catching a felony conviction. Why draw unneccessary attention to yourself and take the chance?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

So you'd rather leave it on and enter a "gun free zone" and see what happens?

I've entered a courthouse with an empty holster before. The officer at the metal detector just asked what kind of gun I carry, some smalltalk.

I was wondering this yesterday though... why does INGO have such a large LEO presence? Do they just happen to like guns? Or do they come here to catch people admit to crimes?

Did becoming a LEO get you interested in guns? Or did being interested in guns lead you to becoming a LEO? Or are the two unrelated?

 

[SteveM4A1]

I don't want to see anyone lose their 2nd Amendment rights by catching a felony conviction. Why draw unneccessary attention to yourself and take the chance?

I understand that. But for all we know he left his firearm at home and was just doing it to make a statement. Who cares about unnecessary attention? Oh thats right, those concealed carry guys...

 

[Dirtebiker]

The OP never said it was illegal.
Just that this person drew his attention.
So maybe next time he should leave the holster with the gun (off school ground) or cover the empty holster.

Actually, wearing an empty holster might be a good way to silently protest the gun free zones. Maybe!?

 

[HoughMade]

This calls for a liberal application of Schoolhouse Rock!

Knowledge is Power, INGO!

Schoolhouse Rock: America - I'm Just a Bill Music Video - YouTube

Dang it, I had copied the link from Youtube and was about to post it when, what do I see?

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

I've entered a courthouse with an empty holster before. The officer at the metal detector just asked what kind of gun I carry, some smalltalk.

I was wondering this yesterday though... why does INGO have such a large LEO presence? Do they just happen to like guns? Or do they come here to catch people admit to crimes?

Did becoming a LEO get you interested in guns? Or did being interested in guns lead you to becoming a LEO? Or are the two unrelated?

You really think I joined INGO to catch people admitting to crimes?

 

[ATM]

You really think I joined INGO to catch people admitting to crimes?

Although it happens all too frequently, no.

 

[HoughMade]

You really think I joined INGO to catch people admitting to crimes?

Just lucky, I guess.

 

[nakinate]

The OWB holster I wear, a Raven Phantom, is a royal PAIN to don and doff. Seriously a royal pain.

It's a 5 min process to put it on, and more than a few mins to remove. That's a lot of work to be doing whilst standing next to a vehicle all while any number of folks can watch what I'm doing...

-J-

5 minutes to avoid being unnecessarily hassled for a lot more than 5 minutes sounds like a good trade off to me.

 

[David D]

If I were an open carry guy (and for the most part I'm not), and if I knew that I had nothing illegal in my vehicle, and I didn't mind this issue being used to define me, then I woud consider the empty holster in GFZ's as a valid method of silent protest.

 

[JettaKnight]

Your exposed, empty holster caught my eye. Hope you weren't breaking the law by leaving your gun in the car.

Probably an ATF agent who left his pistol on top of his car.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

So you'd rather leave it on and enter a "gun free zone" and see what happens?

Answer to that: Maybe.

I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

As of now, I can't/don't/won't carry at work (though legal) due to policies. When my kids are old enough, I'll still probably have this job with the same hours - and, therefore, not generally have to worry about having an empty holster on me.

If I am ever in a situation where I need to do the above - I really hope that I can conceal it better. I'd rather carry IWB anyhow, that's just something else that makes it easier to hide a holster.

 

[KG1]

The officer would need probable cause to believe that the vehicle contained evidence of the crime of having a firearm on school property in order to search the vehicle without a warrant/consent/exigent circumstances.

I was in a hurry this morning. Probable cause is what I meant. At least I did'nt call it a clip. That being said, would the person wearing an empty holster amount to PC? Too thin?

 

[buckstopshere]

So, why not search the surrounding area for any suspicious 5 year old girls??? Most likely this guy was disarmed. It's the only logical explanation.