Russia vs. Ukraine Part 2

[jamil]

I like to wear my INGO thong at training events.

Wait. INGO has a swag store? Where do I get my INGO thong?

 

[oze]

I like to wear my INGO thong at training events.

Wait. Maybe I do know you.

 

[BigRed]

But the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was orchestrated by Abraham Lincoln.

Drawing an attack on your own is a tried and true method of "justifying" war and rallying sheep.

lincoln was not the first, but he knew the tactic well.

 

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[DragonGunner]

You tube has a good one on Rob O’Neill on Ukraine, spot on I thought. Fox Business, interviewer Stewart seemed takin back.

 

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You tube has a good one on Rob O’Neill on Ukraine, spot on I thought. Fox Business, interviewer Stewart seemed takin back.

 

[smokingman]

Zelensky "Open" To China's Peace Proposal, Wants To Meet Xi Jinping To Discuss | ZeroHedge

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Zelensky still went so far as to say he wants to meet with China's leader Xi Jinping to discuss the proposals, perhaps motivated by a sense that Xi could have significant sway with President Putin, making acceptable ceasefire terms more of a reality.

"I plan to meet Xi Jinping and believe this will be beneficial for our countries and for security in the world," Zelensky said.

President Biden telling ABC News on Friday: " Putin's applauding it, so how could it be any good?"

"I've seen nothing in the plan that would indicate that there is something that would be beneficial to anyone other than Russia," he added.

The Dark Trend Of Martial Law, Vigilantism and Public Humiliation In Ukraine | ZeroHedge

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[BigRed]

Good piece.

(It also notes what I have said before.....Ukraine is a **** hole.)

 

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Zelensky "Open" To China's Peace Proposal, Wants To Meet Xi Jinping To Discuss | ZeroHedge

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Zelensky still went so far as to say he wants to meet with China's leader Xi Jinping to discuss the proposals, perhaps motivated by a sense that Xi could have significant sway with President Putin, making acceptable ceasefire terms more of a reality.

"I plan to meet Xi Jinping and believe this will be beneficial for our countries and for security in the world," Zelensky said.

President Biden telling ABC News on Friday: " Putin's applauding it, so how could it be any good?"

"I've seen nothing in the plan that would indicate that there is something that would be beneficial to anyone other than Russia," he added.

The Dark Trend Of Martial Law, Vigilantism and Public Humiliation In Ukraine | ZeroHedge

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Xi Jinping moving in on Joe's sugar daddy?

 

[jamil]

Xi Jinping moving in on Joe's sugar daddy?

If China negotiated with Putin and The Z-man to pull Russian troops out of Ukraine, where Russia gets to save face, and Ukraine tells the US to **** off, that would be hella embarrassing for the US and 0Biden, and would severely weaken US influence in world affairs.

It's like the big bully who pushes everyone around until someone pulls his pants down and laughs at his little pecker. Then everyone just ignores him thereafter.

 

[Leadeye]

Somebody is going to pay to rebuild that country, Z might get a bidding war started between Biden and Xi. It's been an expensive war so far and rebuilding will cost even more.

 

[smokingman]

Somebody is going to pay to rebuild that country, Z might get a bidding war started between Biden and Xi. It's been an expensive war so far and rebuilding will cost even more.

It will have a price tag of around 349 more billion,at least according to the World Bank.

Ukraine Recovery and Reconstruction Needs Estimated $349 Billion

A joint assessment by the Government of Ukraine, the European Commission, and the World Bank, in cooperation with partners, estimates that the current cost of reconstruction and recovery in Ukraine amounts to $349 billion.

www.worldbank.org

Which of course will likely have another Trilateral commission leader soon,among other things.

Ajay Banga — Partnership For Central America

www.centampartnership.org

 

[nra4ever]

China enters the war and will deliver weapons systems to Russia.

Η Κίνα μπήκε στον πόλεμο εναντίον Ουκρανίας και ΝΑΤΟ: Παραδίδει συστήματα πυροβολικού PLZ-05 και MLRS AR1A στον ρωσικό Στρατό! - Ολόκληρη η λίστα - WarNews247

Ξεκινά η αποστολή κινεζικών οπλικών συστημάτων προς την Ρωσία, γεγονός που θα αποτελέσει σημείο καμπής όχι μόνο για τον ουκρανικό

warnews247-gr.translate.goog

 

[actaeon277]

And why are they on the 'favored' trading partner list?

 

[smokingman]

And why are they on the 'favored' trading partner list?

Because they make most of the things we use(from all vehicle oil filters to most electronics and consumer goods),and Taiwan makes most of the chips(also recognize by the USA at the UN as part of China).

Changing that dynamic will take a very long time.

If you need or will need it I suggest you stock up now. It would not take much for prices to explode as one event could crash global trade,and then well. I am sure in a decade we could make some of the things we import from China after setting up manufacturing and energy again,and importing cheap labor.

Our grid is not set up for a return of manufacturing not to mention...

Attacks on U.S. electric power grid expected to grow

Service-disrupting attacks on the U.S. electrical power grid are expected to increase in the coming years, a new report by a leading industry group is warning.

www.washingtontimes.com

and countries ranked by amount of electricity they produce(hint the USA produces less than 1/3 of what China does and India likely passed us last year if not they will in 2023 as we are shutting down more "dirty" coal plants).

List of countries by electricity consumption - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The spin in this article is incredible.

I think it is obvious,but it sure looks like 41.2%(the countries in the poll,it is actually worse if you add in Brazil ect) global population does not support the US,EU9,or Great Britain(10.1% of the global population).
More info at the article. Things most do not realize. For example in China only 6% of the population thinks the US is a better democracy than China itself. It goes on to explore more polls,for example why does the US support Ukraine and the majority of nations polled though it was to maintain western dominance.
The last image I am posting though shows to me the difference in how the media and even social media have covered the war.

United West, divided from the rest: Global public opinion one year into Russia’s war on Ukraine

New polling for ECFR reveals the West is consolidating – while facing an increasingly post-Western world, in which powers such as India and Turkiye are readier than ever to act independently.

ecfr.eu

You should read it to the bottom. Loads more packed into it. Example 9% of American's(surveyed) think the US will still be globally dominant in 10 years. 13% think it will be China(13% of American's). Many countries covered in that one as well.

 

[smokingman]

"The U.S. Department of the Treasury's mission is to maintain a strong economy and create economic and job opportunities by promoting the conditions that enable economic growth and stability at home and abroad, strengthen national security by combating threats and protecting the integrity of the financial system, and manage the U.S. Government’s finances and resources effectively."

https://home.treasury.gov/about/general-information/role-of-the-treasury

So how much has the treasury already given without oversight or congress to Ukraine?

Janet Yellen Says U.S. Will Provide $10B to Ukraine in 'Coming Months'

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said the United States would provide $10 billion to Ukraine "in coming months."

www.breitbart.com

pffft just another 10 billion. It is not like the US treasury is responsible for anything but Ukraine right?

 

[BigRed]

"The U.S. Department of the Treasury's mission is to maintain a strong economy and create economic and job opportunities by promoting the conditions that enable economic growth and stability at home and abroad, strengthen national security by combating threats and protecting the integrity of the financial system, and manage the U.S. Government’s finances and resources effectively."

https://home.treasury.gov/about/general-information/role-of-the-treasury

So how much has the treasury already given without oversight or congress to Ukraine?

Janet Yellen Says U.S. Will Provide $10B to Ukraine in 'Coming Months'

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said the United States would provide $10 billion to Ukraine "in coming months."

www.breitbart.com

pffft just another 10 billion. It is not like the US treasury is responsible for anything but Ukraine right?

"One nation under god and indivisible".

Pay up.

 

[BigRed]

$9B

For an extra $1MM, you can request right frontal lobe or left frontal lobe.

 

[smokingman]

Zelensky fires top military commander engaged in fight against Russian troops

In a one-line decree, Zelensky announced the dismissal of Eduard Moskalyov as commander of the joint forces of Ukraine, without giving any reason.

www.hindustantimes.com

He had led the Ukrainian military since March of 2022. No new head was announced yet.

Unrelated...but.

French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz told Zelensky at an Élysée Palace dinner earlier this month that he must consider peace talks with Moscow, the Journal reported.

According to its source, the newspaper quoted Macron as telling Zelensky that “even mortal enemies like France and Germany had to make peace after World War II.”

Macron told Zelensky “he had been a great war leader, but that he would eventually have to shift into political statesmanship and make difficult decisions,” the newspaper reported.

Western Leaders Privately Admit Ukraine Can't Win The War | ZeroHedge

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And in Berlin Sunday 2/26/2023