Russia vs Ukraine anyone watching this ignite?

[DadSmith]

Ukraine, Russia-backed rebels trade accusations of shelling across front

Russian-backed rebels and Ukrainian forces traded accusations on Thursday that each had fired across the ceasefire line in eastern Ukraine, raising alarm at a time when Western countries have warned of the possibility of a Russian invasion any day.

www.reuters.com

 

[Tombs]

Anything without proof is likely propaganda.


In other news Israel blocking iron dome missile transfer to Ukraine. All this talk about Russia needs to stop the aggression and here we are sending hundreds if not thousands of tons of arms and munitions to the region.

We're always there for them...

Funny how that favor is almost never returned.

 

[Tombs]

We really need to stop sending weapons into Ukraine.

If the Russians invade they will capture all the equipment never used just dropped once.

Honestly why don’t we just sit on the sidelines on this European war. It would seem saving Europeans twice in 100 years and holding off the USSR is enough.

Ivan wants Ukraine back let em have it and we keep our blood and treasure. I know it’s a novel idea let’s let the Europeans fight each other and we watch.

It still baffles me to this day why the US thought WW1 or WW2 were a fight worth involving ourselves in. Dropping nukes on Japan was justified entirely, but outside of that... Just why.

If it was a moral reason, we would have stopped Mao, and wouldn't have backed Stalin, who had a murder toll orders of magnitudes higher than the nazis.

But for some reason people still think there's something to be gained by involving ourselves in historical clay disputes of Europeans (On the opposite side of the planet) who have squabbled over that clay for thousands of years. They're starting to understand why the middle east affairs were dumb to involve ourselves in, but they don't question those wars yet.

 

[Twangbanger]

Anything without proof is likely propaganda.


In other news Israel blocking iron dome missile transfer to Ukraine. All this talk about Russia needs to stop the aggression and here we are sending hundreds if not thousands of tons of arms and munitions to the region.

That tweet is hysterical, meaning "hysteric" in the female sense. "Least aligned with Americans on a core national security issue"...?

Uh, b!tch please. Ukraine is not a "core national security issue" to Americans. It's only a core national security issue to "beltway pinheads" like him who write about this stuff for a living.

It's not going to happen, but silly claptrap like that makes me wish Russia _would_ invade Ukraine, just to show the world and pinheads like this guy how utterly irrelevant it would be, and how Uncle Sam would not lift a finger about it.

 

[Nickbau5]

I'm tired of hearing people keep saying "Bro, Russia is totally invading this/next week, it's totally happening this time, what do you mean there's no proof, the US intelligence said so, don't worry about their proof, they are the proof, trust me this time bro". I'm sick of it, Russia is basically just doing the geopolitical equivalent to gangstalking.

The US media and politicians are just wanting war because their sponsors and lobbyists at Raytheon, Lockheed, Boeing, GM, GE, and almost any other business in the MIC that pushes these warmongering snakes into office and in front of cameras.

 

[nra4ever]

 

[22LRFan]

I don't think Russia is going to invade. You don't build up forces on the border only to allow your enemy time to prepare. Plus, there is so much push back from the international community. I just don't see it happening. I have been wrong before however. lol

 

[KellyinAvon]

Ukraine, Russia-backed rebels trade accusations of shelling across front

Russian-backed rebels and Ukrainian forces traded accusations on Thursday that each had fired across the ceasefire line in eastern Ukraine, raising alarm at a time when Western countries have warned of the possibility of a Russian invasion any day.

www.reuters.com

Vlad could at least change the playbook.

 

[DadSmith]

I took a picture of this before it disappeared like last time I reported Russian separatist attacks. Will mainstream media continue to not report on this?

 

[Bugzilla]

NEWSFLASH:::::::::::::::BIDEN BLINKEN PREDICTING SPRING IS COMING ANY DAY NOW, ANY DAY, NOW, ANY DAY!!

 

[nra4ever]

Russia won't invade until the Olympics end. Then all bets are off.

 

[DadSmith]

 

[rooster]

Anyone aware that Ukraine is home to 1/4 of the worlds black dirt? Think of it like Iowa/Illinois/indiana.

What happens worldwide if this conflict causes harvests to drop this year? Ie, open conflict that stops farming.

Ukraine can feed the world

The launch of an agricultural land market will leave Ukraine well placed to assume an ever-greater role in global food security, says Ukraine's Minister of Agrarian Policy Roman Leshchenko.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

 

[nra4ever]

US warns Putin might launch chemical attack before invading Ukraine

Russia today dramatically upped its price for de-escalating the crisis in Ukraine - demanding that America withdraw all troops and weapons from central and eastern Europe and the Baltics.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[DadSmith]

It's a matter of will Biden, and his handlers fold?



Ukraine has been known as the bread basket of Europe for a long time.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Sepera

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I took a picture of this before it disappeared like last time I reported Russian separatist attacks. Will mainstream media continue to not report on this?

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I took a picture of this before it disappeared like last time I reported Russian separatist attacks. Will mainstream media continue to not report on this?

Separatists shelling civilians. That’s one way to get around that pesky Geneva Conventions. It wasn’t us, it was the separatists.

 

[Keith_Indy]

Prove it isn't CIA paramilitaries shelling both sides to gin up a reason for war...

or the KGB... (or whoever they would use for that)

NOTE: I did not commit suicide

 

[Bugzilla]

Anyone aware that Ukraine is home to 1/4 of the worlds black dirt? Think of it like Iowa/Illinois/indiana.

What happens worldwide if this conflict causes harvests to drop this year? Ie, open conflict that stops farming.

Ukraine can feed the world

The launch of an agricultural land market will leave Ukraine well placed to assume an ever-greater role in global food security, says Ukraine's Minister of Agrarian Policy Roman Leshchenko.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

Tie the price of exported grain to the price of imported oil.

 

[Keith_Indy]

other bits of prop-info... of course, one must consider sources, like reuters. they talk to russians, print what they say, print what our administration say.

This doesn't say who is doing the shooting or shelling, just a possible independent confirmation of fighting.

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-696875

"What has been reported in the media about attacks in the area of Donetsk are true", Aryeh Schwartz an activist in the Jewish community of Donetsk tells The Jerusalem Post Thursday.

"We heard gun shots all night and all during the day today. There was gunfire in the center of Donetsk and also in the periphery."

Schwartz says that he spoke to a Jew that lives in the city of Gorlovka in the Donetsk region and that "it is also very tense there. The attacks by the Russian separatists began at about 5:00 pm, and during the day they heard bombings. My friend told me that the whole city was shaking. Many are hiding in shelters in fear.

"Everyone went to the gas stations today and filled up not only the gas tank in their vehicles but also external fuel tanks. They are very afraid that an attack will begin and there will be no possibility to refuel. There were several gas stations in the city that were jam packed - and cars lined up in order to fuel".

He says that many locals have decided to evacuate themselves before it will be too late "Many people I know who can get out (of Donetsk) left towards Russia today. There is a guy from the community who drove towards Russia and said there was a huge queue, it was never as long as it was today. More and more people are trying to leave for Russia".

He adds that "A fellow Jew who lives in Lugansk told me this evening that the city was under heavy artillery fire".

So, the local thugs are doing their thing just like they always have been, Russia is having a very large joint military exercise and this is all freaking out the Western intel/leadership/media establishment.

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-696748

Russian-backed rebels and Ukrainian forces traded accusations that each had fired across the ceasefire line, raising alarm at a time when Western countries have warned of the possibility of a Russian invasion any day.

"Civilian infrastructure damaged. We call on all partners to swiftly condemn this severe violation of Minsk agreements by Russia amid an already tense security situation," Kuleba tweeted.

Such incidents have occurred many times over the past eight years but this clash comes after Russia has massed more than 100,000 troops close to Ukraine's borders while demanding that NATO pledge not to accept Ukraine as a member.

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-696703

Russia's Investigative Committee claimed on Wednesday that mass graves of hundreds of Russian-speaking civilians had been found in the Donbas region, as the Russian government continued to accuse Ukraine of genocide and human rights violations in Donbas.

The committee claimed that the civilians found in the area controlled by Russian-backed separatists were killed by Ukrainian shelling. "The Investigative Committee continues to take all possible measures to uphold the principle of the inevitability of punishment for those responsible for committing crimes in Donetsk and Luhansk areas," said the committee.

 

[KG1]

"Russia has massed more than 100,000 troops close to Ukraine's borders while demanding that NATO pledge not to accept Ukraine as a member."

Pooty-poot's Ukraine hostage ransom demands have extended well beyond this now to include U.S. troop and weapon withdrawal in central and eastern Europe and the Baltics.