And some sort of method for compensating owners for loss and/or damages to property while in the state's care.
Ha, yeah, good luck with that nice Weatherby Mark V deluxe with scope after a year in a property room.
And some sort of method for compensating owners for loss and/or damages to property while in the state's care.
Seems the more effective solution would be to remove the person.Not contending that current Indiana law (or any other current law) is the best approach, but with appropriate checks and balances, I believe that some sort of "red flag" law would be constitutional and would, in fact, be a good idea.
In theory (putting aside how exactly you prove it), if we knew that someone was threatening imminent violence or self-harm, taking away the means to inflict immediately inflict that harm is justified.
The problem, of course, and as always, is how to do this in a way that respects rights and does not give power to those who would lie to harm another. It's not at all an easy task.
They’re about as useless as a protection order. It does not stop anyone from hurting some one else.Seems the more effective solution would be to remove the person.
If someone was had seriously decided to cause harm to someone, does anyone think that they wouldn't be willing to acquire a weapon in another manner, or another manner of weapon?
These laws seem to be more about the perception of guns than actually protecting anyone.
Seems the more effective solution would be to remove the person...
Ha, yeah, good luck with that nice Weatherby Mark V deluxe with scope after a year in a property room.
For those of you OK with these red flag laws, just remember it took me 6 months & a lawyer to get back my pistol and I was only rear ended in a car wreck. No red flag confiscation. No warrant, no charges. Nothing but a slow walking, incompetent, 2A hating property room manager @ IMPD with staff that said "ha, sue us".
Seems the more effective solution would be to remove the person.
If someone was had seriously decided to cause harm to someone, does anyone think that they wouldn't be willing to acquire a weapon in another manner, or another manner of weapon?
These laws seem to be more about the perception of guns than actually protecting anyone.
Per your (ahem) "request", I re-read the article (third time) and all of your posts in this thread.
While I would agree, it's not cause for "blaze of glory" time, I still fail to see how the circumstances, as described in the article linked in the OP (and summarized in my post), warrant the action taken to confiscate the property of Uncle X?
What, exactly, are you suggesting I'm missing here?
For those of you OK with these red flag laws, just remember it took me 6 months & a lawyer to get back my pistol and I was only rear ended in a car wreck. No red flag confiscation. No warrant, no charges. Nothing but a slow walking, incompetent, 2A hating property room manager @ IMPD with staff that said "ha, sue us".
There’s a hole thread about it.Care to share your case if it's already been closed?
Care to share your case if it's already been closed?
For those of you OK with these red flag laws, just remember it took me 6 months & a lawyer to get back my pistol and I was only rear ended in a car wreck. No red flag confiscation. No warrant, no charges. Nothing but a slow walking, incompetent, 2A hating property room manager @ IMPD with staff that said "ha, sue us".
Why should I have to prove my weapons are secured?This all comes down to us gun owners' PERCEIVED inability to secure our weapons. A few bad situations (as has been mentioned, Lanza, the Noblesville shooter) make us all seem like we just have tons of "assault weapons" and a "hordes of ammunition" laying around for the crazed relatives/neighbors to grab and do harm.
If we can prove our weapons are secured, why in the wide world of sports would they have any justification for confiscation when it is another individual who is purported to be the one that is the danger to society?
This is only half of the problem, because they can still claim the gun owner himself/herself is the dangerous one, and then all bets are off.
Unfortunately it's a long thread. Here - https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...ianapolis-pd-firearm-seizure-no-return-5.html
Kirk helped get my pistol back.
No lawsuit was files but man I seriously thought about it.
For those of you OK with these red flag laws, just remember it took me 6 months & a lawyer to get back my pistol and I was only rear ended in a car wreck. No red flag confiscation. No warrant, no charges. Nothing but a slow walking, incompetent, 2A hating property room manager @ IMPD with staff that said "ha, sue us".
So, your case is more on firearm detention rather than the actual red flag situation. I thought you've been a victim of false flagging.