And a Righty would be the one to think upside down scissors work for the other hand…Helpful hint. Turn the scissors upside down. You're welcome.
12 Gauge shotgun. Its the most effective option round for round of handgun, carbine, etc. with proper ammunition like OO Buck with Federal Flite Control it has a adequate defensive range, impressive accuracy and devastating terminal ballistics.So, I've got a concept in mind and I want to see what other people would think. Let's say you were thinking things were about to get tough where for whatever reason your beloved family was going to need a gun for food and a layer of home defense. The idea being that your family knows how to use guns as tools, but isn't the gun nutt of the family searching through internet survival forums like you likely are now. If they had a gun it'd probably have a half empty box of ammo "somewhere" and maybe two other whole boxes. What would you arm your family & loved ones with and why.
For me my mind immediately drifts away from AR's & AK's and I start thinking about a bolt action 308. Then I get questioning a bolt action because it'd likely need a scope and if you're handing these out then they're not likely to maintain the zero and keep that running so the bolt action goes out pretty quick. Then I start thinking about a simple shotgun, but that doesn't do much good when there's a deer 125 yards out and now is the time to take the shot. Then I start thinking about a lever action and that's got a solid ability throw lead fast, top off as you go and in the right caliber takes that same deer at 125 yards out if need be.
It's a mental war gaming exercise and I'm curious if you guys ever think through these scenarios and if so what do you think of the one above?
Depends on the intended user. But would agree it’s the most versatile of all options. Small game big game defense animals in trees animals in the air on water etc etc lol12 Gauge shotgun. Its the most effective option round for round of handgun, carbine, etc. with proper ammunition like OO Buck with Federal Flite Control it has a adequate defensive range, impressive accuracy and devastating terminal ballistics.
Booby traps are, well on the other side of our legal system as of today. Can’t say about tomorrow.
How do you "arm the family" with "a gun?"Did you even read post #1?
Let's say you were thinking things were about to get tough where for whatever reason your beloved family was going to need a gun for food and a layer of home defense.
I don't believe he is talking about a gun for each and every family member.
Some old cojer, copper cotter no cooper that’s it, some ol codger named cooper said the lever action gun was a fine rifle for defense, but he probably didn’t know what he was talking about. But he was also a fan of the M1 Garand and the 1911.just expanding a thought here....
A lever gun is an old design. Old design doesn't mean reliable. If an end of days scenario were to present, would you pick a rifle with dozens of screws of different sizes and interlocking parts? It isn't hard to jam a lever gun. They wouldn't be on my list for rugged, dependable rifles.
Some old cojer, copper cotter no cooper that’s it, some ol codger named cooper said the lever action gun was a fine rifle for defense, but he probably didn’t know what he was talking about.
Some old cojer, copper cotter no cooper that’s it, some ol codger named cooper said the lever action gun was a fine rifle for defense, but he probably didn’t know what he was talking about. But he was also a fan of the M1 Garand and the 1911.
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I went ahead and put my entire quote in there.Maybe he didn't. Did he run tactical courses with lever actions? Put a thousand rounds through one? Did he choose a lever gun as his personal defensive long gun?
just expanding a thought here....
A lever gun is an old design. Old design doesn't mean reliable. If an end of days scenario were to present, would you pick a rifle with dozens of screws of different sizes and interlocking parts? It isn't hard to jam a lever gun. They wouldn't be on my list for rugged, dependable rifles.
that's the article I was thinking of when I made the original comment. I'd pick an old bolt gun over an old lever gun personally. Rate of action is comparable.Maybe he didn't. Did he run tactical courses with lever actions? Put a thousand rounds through one? Did he choose a lever gun as his personal defensive long gun?
Are Lever Action Rifles Reliable? - Lucky Gunner Lounge
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There are mag fed lever guns i believe, if that’s your cup o tea. Just repeating what a well respected gun writer said.that's the article I was thinking of when I made the original comment. I'd pick an old bolt gun over an old lever gun personally. Rate of action is comparable.
Modern bolt guns can be mag fed. Takes capacity out of the problems.
it's not the capacity, it's the complexity of the action.There are mag fed lever guns i believe, if that’s your cup o tea. Just repeating what a well respected gun writer said.