Officers just disarmed me in Subway, lectured and took my DL.

[Indy60]

Well,.. lesson learned. I won't ever leave home without my pink slip. Sorry for your run in, that had to have been a very tense few minutes. Glad it ended well for you.

 

[cobber]

I don't think that it would be a good idea to follow some of the advice given by some here. Calling and complaining on the officers that DIDN"T cite you for DWS probably isn't the best idea, the statute of imitations hasn't run out.

Even when you're OWS, your 2d A. rights still attach (just like the 4th and 5th). I would say the preservation of a constitutional right outweighs possible Title 9 charges (even if they could charge).

 

[lowendgenerator]

Always have your LTCH on your just like your DL. I'd rather forget my keys to the house than my wallet with my LTCH.

Quoted for truth. Why would you not keep your LTCH in your wallet right behind your DL?

 

[LegatoRedrivers]

Don't know if this would win me any friends, but when I read "Are you trying to tell "the law" the law?"

The first response that came to mind was "I do have my attorney's office number in my phone. If you would prefer, I can see if he has a few minutes to bring you up to speed on the subject while we're waiting for your supervisor to arrive."

Of course, I've yet to have found myself without my pink slip on a suspended license...

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Quoted for truth. Why would you not keep your LTCH in your wallet right behind your DL?

It's oddly shaped! I just have a small card wallet, and it doesn't fit well. I'll just fold it up and toss it in there... or leave it in my glove compartment.

 

[A 7.62 Exodus]

I had a gun once, but my turtle ate it.........i like turtles

 

[lowendgenerator]

It's oddly shaped! I just have a small card wallet, and it doesn't fit well. I'll just fold it up and toss it in there... or leave it in my glove compartment.

That's a pretty weak excuse not to carry your LTCH.

If you're going to carry, for the sake of all of us, do it right.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

That's a pretty weak excuse not to carry your LTCH.

If you're going to carry, for the sake of all of us, do it right.

The law doesn't force me to carry it, as said earlier. It's another one of those "Well do it anyway to prove you aren't bad" sorts of situations. If they're going to detain me, they can look it up themselves. I wasn't breaking any laws as far as carrying my firearm went.

similar to saying "Well, just CC anyway then you won't have problems."

 

[TheReaper]

Even when you're OWS, your 2d A. rights still attach (just like the 4th and 5th). I would say the preservation of a constitutional right outweighs possible Title 9 charges (even if they could charge).

LOL, sure. First off, what department policy or state law did they violate? I'll answer that, sounds like none! So call and complain and possibly get charged when you were let off with a warning (DWS). And charge him they can, HE ADMITTED to the offense! It also depends how he was suspended, it is title 9, but he could have been suspended misdemeanor which could include jail time. Oh well, I vote for complain and lets see if he gets charged!

 

[eldirector]

It's oddly shaped! I just have a small card wallet, and it doesn't fit well. I'll just fold it up and toss it in there... or leave it in my glove compartment.

If you copy it onto the same pink paper at 88%, then sign and laminate, it is exactly the same size as a credit card.

Just FYI......

 

[Titanium_Frost]

The law doesn't force me to carry it, as said earlier. It's another one of those "Well do it anyway to prove you aren't bad" sorts of situations. If they're going to detain me, they can look it up themselves. I wasn't breaking any laws as far as carrying my firearm went.

similar to saying "Well, just CC anyway then you won't have problems."

Actually it isn't. It was illegal a very short while ago to carry without having your license on you. Indiana's effed up carry laws (in regards to without a license it's a crime) and the fact that it is a proactive defense- you have to PROVE your innocence- mean that the best way to carry is to have your LTCH handy.

If for no other reason all of the case law that protects LTCH holders requires you to PROVE you are licensed!

Also some of your answers (DON'T talk to cops!) and the fact that you were unaware of your suspension (guilty myself once) prove that you need to pay a little more attention to things to help you prevent future encounters from escalating.

And TRUST me, they do escalate as soon as you are on their radar.

 

[Hiker1911]

Good advice for OCers is to have your **** together. Go to myBMV.com and you can see your driving record.

Same thing happened to me but reversed, driving then they saw the gun.

Learn from it and move on, give their boss a jingle about unholstering a firearm in a crowded room and let it go. And even though it isn't strictly required by the IC anymore its always a good idea to carry your LTCH so you can stop bull**** like this before it starts.

Just registered on myBMV.com, thanks for the mention.

 

[Hiker1911]

I don't think you technically/legally HAVE TO, but why run the added risk to yourself for additional scrutiny. Just carry it and even make copies of it so you always have on available.

The woman moving my paperwork through the Evansville PD for my lifetime LTCH, recently, strongly urged me to make 'pink' copies as soon as I added the signature to mine, and she eyeballed me for an acknowledgement.

 

[greyhound47]

These troopers sounded like they were pretty fair with you. You may be within the law to not have your LTCH on you but you would be SMART to do it; especially if you are open carrying which will invite inquiry from the police. They have the law on their side to ask you for your LTCH if they see your gun.

 

[GBuck]

"Well, just CC anyway then you won't have problems."

At least you're admitting it...

 

[jsharmon7]

I'd like to add to this thread that Subway sucks. Aside from their meatball subs (which I like) you have to order double meat just to have a decent sandwich. Seriously, a thin slice of ham and a thin slice of turkey folded in half is not a sandwich. Ok, carry on.

 

[TheReaper]

I'd like to add to this thread that Subway sucks. Aside from their meatball subs (which I like) you have to order double meat just to have a decent sandwich. Seriously, a thin slice of ham and a thin slice of turkey folded in half is not a sandwich. Ok, carry on.

Your right about that....GO BLIMPIE!

 

[Ted]

Yes, if it suspended they can take it.

As driver's license is not the property of the individual, but rather the State of Indiana. The state may recall it at anytime.

 

[daddymikey1975]

I'd like to add to this thread that Subway sucks. Aside from their meatball subs (which I like) you have to order double meat just to have a decent sandwich. Seriously, a thin slice of ham and a thin slice of turkey folded in half is not a sandwich. Ok, carry on.

[big time thread jack]

For fun.. go to subway and order a "BLT".. (they always forget my bacon in the microwave).. but for the fun of it, what would you EXPECT to be on a BLT ??? They will sit and wait for you to tell them you want lettuce and tomato on it, but will assume it's ok to put bacon on.. it's an effing BLT.. I always get a kick out of them as I pause when they ask about veggies ..

[/big time thread jack]

 

[CathyInBlue]

Hey! Lay off of Frosty! It wasn't ME getting frisked this time!

Jealous?

I'd love to make a more substantive comment in this thread, but it would be against penal interests.