SavageEagle
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- Apr 27, 2008
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not taking any vaccines.
just dont cry to me when you get polio.
I think we have to be careful in declaring all vaccines are bad. I think we quickly forget how bad polio, smallpox, typhus, diptheria were in this country before these vaccines made them rarely seen in this country.
Gardasil is the name of the vaccine,....
I don't really want to jump in the fray here, but I don't subscribe to the tinfoil theory on vaccines. I am sure that there are cases where vaccines can cause harm, and I would be utterly devastated if it were my child. But vaccines have saved millions of lives in this country.
What if an overwhelmingly majority of parents decided not to vaccinate their kids? Think about it. Think about what could happen. It is safe to make a decision to not vaccinate your child (mostly safe) because almost all the other children around him/her are vaccinated. You can comfortably make this decision because other parents have made a different one.
I will not minimize a vaccine related complication, but man, you are massively minimizing the health impact of HPV in this statement.
Until scientists who develope these vaccines are perfect, some people will have adverse reactions.
Man can never make a perfect medicine, or do a perfect procedure.
I just sense an awful lot of tinfoil hats in the anti-vaccine movement. Big Pharma has everyone bought off and is foisting off on the public drugs they know are dangerous, seems to be the attitude. Certainly everyone needs to research the issues and make decisions based upon the best scientific findings. But make it scientific. Don't make it, well I heard, some guy told me, i saw on some website. There is just way too much disinformation out there. Many of these people pushing "alternate" medicines are hucksters selling their version of snake oil. My child had a genuine reaction to his first DPT shot. The doctor decided to delete the pertussis portion of his shots from that point on. Unfortunately our schools no longer teach science or give students an appreciation for what the scientific method even means. We are too busy teaching how to use condoms and how to feel good about yourself.
The Gardasil vaccine actually seems to be a good example. There are questions on its safety and the scientific community is looking at it. With a simple Google search I discovered this was discussed just a few months ago in the Journal of the AMA. If it is dangerous or not effective, real scientists and doctors will discover it. Not some joker selling his homeopathy water. With the huge trial lawyers industry in this country, do you really think the drug companies are going to release drugs they know are dangerous. If they did that, the suits would be like a tidal wave. I don't know if anyone should currently take it or if they should wait for further study. That is up to each individual. I so think that to just say "well it's only 4000 women a year that dies" is a bit callous. I think it also discounts the misery that the 7-8000 women that get it and survive each year, the cost to their families emotionally.
The Gardasil vaccine actually seems to be a good example. There are questions on its safety and the scientific community is looking at it. With a simple Google search I discovered this was discussed just a few months ago in the Journal of the AMA. If it is dangerous or not effective, real scientists and doctors will discover it. Not some joker selling his homeopathy water. With the huge trial lawyers industry in this country, do you really think the drug companies are going to release drugs they know are dangerous. If they did that, the suits would be like a tidal wave. I don't know if anyone should currently take it or if they should wait for further study. That is up to each individual. I so think that to just say "well it's only 4000 women a year that dies" is a bit callous. I think it also discounts the misery that the 7-8000 women that get it and survive each year, the cost to their families emotionally.
My best freinds daughter has suffered major asthma and respiratory problems since A FEW HOURS after she received a round of shots as a baby.
The comparison between mass vaccinations & private gun ownership is flawed.
Innocent people are harmed from firearms when some negligent, accidental, or homicidal intentions are used.
Innocent people are harmed from vaccines when they are used exactly as directed. And then you are lied to and told it was genetics that caused your spontaneous illness.
Now she has a lifetime worth of asthma attacks, inhalers, struggles in sports, etc. Hopefully it is some consolation to know that she may or may not get Chicken Pox later in life.