Ha ha yea Ive shot a Surgeon they are SWEET! and a little out of my price range right now lol. I think Im going to get a Savage VLP DBM in 243 for the time being to tide me over till I can do a rebarrel later on. Im really liking the reviews on the rifles. Just wont be able to shoot the real heavy stuff like the 107-115gr bullets but can use the 95grainers to get me going.