Same questions - all I see is Rifle rifle rifle, not seeing SBS anywhere in there.I wonder how short barreled shotguns would play into this ruling. They are different classifications per the NFA but not mentioned from what Inhave read so far.
Agree. Secondary - why would you register it with a Brace instead of putting on an actual stock designed for shoulder fire if you have it registered?I'm gonna be real with y'all for a second.
If you see this and think "sweet, free SBR stamp", you are part of the problem.
Because they are no longer being considered pistols but short barreled rifles.Trying to understand the posts regarding 922(r) compliance when the unconstitutional sporting purpose clause of the new ATF second amendment pertains to long guns and not pistols.
Thanks. Yes, AT and unconstitutional F totally out of control.Because they are no longer being considered pistols but short barreled rifles.
You will get no argument from me. I just wish I’d gotten on the ball sooner to have something to not comply with.Thanks. Yes, AT and unconstitutional F totally out of control.
yesWould it kill them to realize the cat is well out of the bag, and remove the whole pointless SBR thing out of the NFA?
Until there are consequences, it will continue.It's a rule that has force of law... hasn't been published to the federal register yet AFAIK.
BATFE can't legally do this since they are WAY outside what the law says and in the wake of the SCOTUS case West Virginia v EPA 2022 (recognizes that 3-letter agencies aren't the Legislative Branch, can't make laws, and there are limits) and this is pretty much the definition of arbitrary (Administrative Procedures Act specifically forbids arbitrary changes.) Although ATF should stand for "Arbitrary Towards Firearms".
BATFE is doing it anyway, Constitution be damned! TPTB at ATF are anti-2A, period, dot. We dodged a bullet (pun intended) when the Chipman (the guy who was somewhere between Gary Busey and a demented chipmunk) nomination was pulled, but the one who got past the Senate is a mainstream anti-2A type so he was acceptable.
Until it gets to a court? This will continue. Until the House and Senate decide too much was delegated to the 3-letter agencies? More of this will continue.
Wrote your congress-critters in DC yet? Post #84 in this thread has a draft letter/email.
Would it kill them to realize the cat is well out of the bag, and remove the whole pointless SBR thing out of the NFA?
yes
I'm sure they did, and it gave them great pause. With sadness, they had to keep moving forward despite it.If true, I would really be disappointed. I wonder if they have calculated into their decision making my disappointment.
They certainly don't turn over illegal imagrants that are arrested for violent crimes. Locals just release them and give them a piece of paper telling them to voluntarily show up for court in 10 months.So local law enforcement does not turn over anything to federal law enforcement?
Well that is also disappointingI'm sure they did, and it gave them great pause. With sadness, they had to keep moving forward despite it.
Would it kill them to realize the cat is well out of the bag, and remove the whole pointless SBR thing out of the NFA?
yes
Would it kill them to realize the cat is well out of the bag, and remove the whole pointless SBR thing out of the NFA?
Hopefully
No. That would require that they admit they were wrong, and they wont do that. They are going to have to be told to stop by SCOTUS or the legislative branch.