Titanium_Frost
Grandmaster
I think you're arguing in favor of my argument. You, personally, know the police can use certain methods to obtain permission/access. You are NOT ignorant or misinformed, you know your rights and can exercise them in this regard. That was the gist of my argument. Maybe someone could be persuaded into giving permission, but at least part of the weight of that decision should rest with them.
I'm going to have to agree with this. If you are merely convinced to give up your rights they are not infringed. However if you refuse to authorize a search and the LEO does it anyway without RAS then your rights are infringed.
If they detain you without cause to get you to cave, your rights are violated. Lying is ****ty but that is why you need to understand and assert your rights at all times and in all circumstances.