What if there were no flu or C19 vaccines? What would have changed? The narrative is that we'd all be dead yet the life insurance numbers are showing the experiment is creating the deaths. Roughly 3 million die in the US every year, which is about 1% of the population. If this does not increase for 2022 I will concede it is a wash. If there is a big increase the life insurance companies state, it will not be from a corona virus but from an EUA injection.I don't consider the flu vaccine to be effective at all for the vast majority of the population. It may have some efficacy for high-risk populations, if the right variant is guessed in the annual vaccine cocktail (sound familiar?).
You are correct, and it is yet another reason (besides the inherent one) why vaccines should never have been mandated.What if there were no flu or C19 vaccines? What would have changed? The narrative is that we'd all be dead yet the life insurance numbers are showing the experiment is creating the deaths. Roughly 3 million die in the US every year, which is about 1% of the population. If this does not increase for 2022 I will concede it is a wash. If there is a big increase the life insurance companies state, it will not be from a corona virus but from an EUA injection.
I said a year ago I'd reevaluate if this vax push turned out ok in regards to the experiment vs the control group. I'm not seeing an improvement for people following this alleged science. I'm seeing first hand family and friends having serious health issues. I can only imagine what it will look like a year from now. Can anyone say that it looks better a year from now?
I would be genuinely interested in what your thoughts are about the big picture moving forward, based on what has happened in the last two years. A lot seems to be centered on a vaccine with multiple variables and players, with even more drugs and vaccines still being developed. Contrasting that to the belief that clinical data may have been withheld appears to be a dangerous future.You are correct, and it is yet another reason (besides the inherent one) why vaccines should never have been mandated.
I suspect that deaths will have increased throughout the pandemic; however, I also suspect that those deaths are largely a shift from those who were already at mortal risk, due to age, frailty, and health (primarily, metabolic disorder). So, that curve may flatten as we get 5-10 years past the pandemic.
Covid never posed a significant risk to the young or to the otherwise healthy. Most of us here said that all along.
Regarding my position: I'm glad to be in a position to help manufacturers get life-saving treatments to people who need them. At the same time, I'm opposed to anti-liberty public policy (including lockdowns, vaccine/mask mandates, and all the rest). I'm also opposed to crony capitalism, fraud, and government collusion (and am having a very difficult time believing that all three of those didn't transpire through the pandemic).I would be genuinely interested in what your thoughts are about the big picture moving forward, based on what has happened in the last two years. A lot seems to be centered on a vaccine with multiple variables and players, with even more drugs and vaccines still being developed. Contrasting that to the belief that clinical data may have been withheld appears to be a dangerous future.
I believed incorrectly that all this would be over by now and feel it needs to end. I have concerns and am not real happy about how its affected peoples livlihood, peoples jobs and particularly with families and their children. I just found out yesterday about a 10th grandchild on the way, so I see how it affects families negatively.
We're heading into Fall and Winter so theres always an opportunity as you've stated for "conditioning the populace to be controlled by the government - ceding liberties under the guise of safety, without questioning?" I understand no one really knows what will happen but with your background in working with manufacturing vaccines, being open minded and pro-liberty, you have a broad platform to speak upon if you wish.
9/11 and the Patriot Act response was the canary in the coal mine. This will not end when/if we ever get past this virus. This is the real endemic problem.As for the willingness of large swaths of the public to cede liberty under the guise of safety: I think that, sadly, has been proven to be true.
I was referring to the safety of the covid vax and mrna tech in general. I'm pretty sure I remember you poopooing people for having reservations about the safety, the clinical trials, the data. I'm pretty sure you and I had a back and forth or two about it a year or so ago. If I wasn't lazy and at work, I'd go dig for receipts. But then again, my memory isn't as reliable as it used to be.Told whom, what? It's the same position I've always held. Go back to 2020. I said back then that vaccines for this virus would have about the same chance of efficacy as the flu vaccine, because the virus is so mutable. Turns out, that's exactly what happened. The vaccine was developed against the delta variant, and didn't do squat against later variants. And, yes; from what I can tell: the vaccine was effective against the delta variant.
Well, yes. The data today are not the same as the data then. Are you claiming that you, then, knew about fraudulent and covered-up clinical data?I was referring to the safety of the covid vax and mrna tech in general. I'm pretty sure I remember you poopooing people for having reservations about the safety, the clinical trials, the data. I'm pretty sure you and I had a back and forth or two about it a year or so ago. If I wasn't lazy and at work, I'd go dig for receipts. But then again, my memory isn't as reliable as it used to be.
I do not know Chip or you. I did read many old posts from a lot of people, even my own. If one searches a user name with key words of vaccine, covid, etc. or even a "no word" just in the Gen Pol, it's quick and easy to see where people stand on a topic.I was referring to the safety of the covid vax and mrna tech in general. I'm pretty sure I remember you poopooing people for having reservations about the safety, the clinical trials, the data. I'm pretty sure you and I had a back and forth or two about it a year or so ago. If I wasn't lazy and at work, I'd go dig for receipts. But then again, my memory isn't as reliable as it used to be.
Yes. So this was what I saw in old posts and just posted above.Well, yes. The data today are not the same as the data then. Are you claiming that you, then, knew about fraudulent and covered-up clinical data?
Majority Of Democrats Favor House Arrest For The Unvaccinated, Nearly A Third Want Them To Lose Custody Of Children: Poll
100 million Americans affected: Biden to mandate ALL EMPLOYERS with over 100 workers to require Covid jab or weekly tests
US President Joe Biden will instruct all employers with more than 100 workers to force their staff to get vaccinated or to submit to weekly Covid-19 tests. Companies refusing will face stiff fines.www.rt.com
We're pretty much two, separate countries at this point.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...m-to-lose-custody-of-children-poll/ar-AASUbza
https://www.westernjournal.com/watch-americans-joyfully-sign-petition-arrest-jail-unvaccinated/
Yeah ****ers, we're paying attention and won't forget. Check yourselves.
Another takeaway should be that those grafts are a mature, routine procedure with a very low rejection rate - at least before mRNA vaccines came along. The important question would be do the enumerated cases represent a significant increase in the rate of rejectionMy interpretation wad that the corneal transplants is just where the trend began to emerge, not that it's definitively limited to corneal transplants and no others. We'll have to wait and see.
Conclusion
Non-use of ivermectin was associated with a 12.5-fold increase in mortality rate and a seven-fold increased risk of dying from COVID-19 compared to the regular use of ivermectin. This dose-response efficacy reinforces the prophylactic effects of ivermectin against COVID-19.
Key points here, for those who like to demolish straw men:Horse paste... sure
Regular Use of Ivermectin as Prophylaxis for COVID-19 Led Up to a 92% Reduction in COVID-19 Mortality Rate in a Dose-Response Manner: Results of a Prospective Observational Study of a Strictly Controlled Population of 88,012 Subjects
Background We have previously demonstrated that ivermectin used as prophylaxis for coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), irrespective of the regularity, in a strictly controlled citywide program in Southern Brazil (Itajaí, Brazil), was associated with reductions in COVID-19 infection...www.cureus.com
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