Mandated vaccines or weekly testing for employers of 100+ people.......

[foszoe]

I provided proof. A screenshot of an article. If you wanna fact check the screenshot go for it. If you wanna fact check a link go for it.


If you’re able to get on ingo and sign in, you’re able to Google an article.

Ok...are you unable to post a link? I can help you with that.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

But name 1 that has said don't wear masks also.

The masks company themselves, when they put on the box “does not protect against Covid-19”.


I’d rather wear a bandana over my face, with my cowboy hat and boots on, so I can roleplay as an outlaw. Same effectiveness, just more fun.

 

[Tombs]

But name 1 that has said don't wear masks also.

I'm not sure I understand your question exactly?

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Ok...are you unable to post a link? I can help you with that.

Did you not read the comment before? Would you have clicked on 6 different links? You’re arguing if an apple peel is actually from an apple? Really?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I will attempt to summarize my own thinking:

If you are vaccinated, your chance of getting the infection is reduced from those who do not have the vaccine. If you do get infected, your chances of survival and ability to stay out of the hospital are significantly enhanced.

Therefore, if I'm going to go meet granny and give her a big hug, my chance of infecting her when I do not present any symptoms is likely better if I had the vaccine than if I have not received the vaccination.

I also know that many people, including myself, are generally in a state of denial early in an illness. We don't take it seriously. In the case of Covid and huggin Granny, we should.

I really can't find too much to disagree with here. This little tiny bit maybe.

"when I do not present any symptoms" That can still be a problem (asymptomatic infection) whether vaxxed or unvaxxed.

But...

 

[ChristianPatriot]

Never denied that. In fact that's exactly why I'm am asking if the vaccination of all parties in the room matters

It only matters to those who are not vaccinated. Which is their choice.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Never denied that. In fact that's exactly why I'm am asking if the vaccination of all parties in the room matters

My opinion? No. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

[Leo]

Gibraltar, 99% vaccine rate. Same percentage of sickness and death as anywhere else. Iceland, 70+% vaccinated, same deal.

We need to figure out who is pumping the propaganda machine and why. Either that of start wearing brown shirts and attacking your neighbors, without knowing why.

The politics of fear: How fear goes tribal, allowing us to be manipulated

Fear is very much a part of humans’ survival. Demagogues and others who want to manipulate have learned that this human trait can be exploited, often with disastrous consequences.

theconversation.com

 

[Tombs]

Gibraltar, 99% vaccine rate. Same percentage of sickness and death as anywhere else. Iceland, 70+% vaccinated, same deal.

We need to figure out who is pumping the propaganda machine and why. Either that of start wearing brown shirts and attacking your neighbors, without knowing why.

The politics of fear: How fear goes tribal, allowing us to be manipulated

Fear is very much a part of humans’ survival. Demagogues and others who want to manipulate have learned that this human trait can be exploited, often with disastrous consequences.

theconversation.com

It's because, like I said, the vaccines have marginal protection against new and emerging variants.
People are sold a lie that the vaccine protects them, when really it protects them from what was running rampant a year ago. It has questionable effectiveness over time and against new variants.

This is why israel is now saying they consider you un-vaxxed if you've only had 2 injections, and they're trying to roll out a 4th booster now.

We're into wack-a-mole territory where we need a treatment rather than a vaccine for combatting this. But big pharma doesn't like the concept of them not being the sole rights holders of a new and patent protected treatment, and are lobbying like hell to make sure they hold a monopoly on anything that might work.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

My opinion? No. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

This. Right. Here. Is. America!

 

[Alpo]

I really can't find too much to disagree with here. This little tiny bit maybe.

"when I do not present any symptoms" That can still be a problem (asymptomatic infection) whether vaxxed or unvaxxed.

But...

I've been watching "Kim's Convenience" on Netflix. Great show on Korean immigrants running a bodega in Toronto.

As to asymptomatic infections, it is clear that the infection rate is higher among the unvaccinated, although we start off with a fairly low probability in the first place.

 

[foszoe]

Did you not read the comment before? Would you have clicked on 6 different links? You’re arguing if an apple peel is actually from an apple? Really?

Yes.

You are the only poster I know that posts pictures instead of links as evidence. I guess when everyone except a couple who question you are OK with the practice

 

[Hatin Since 87]

I've been watching "Kim's Convenience" on Netflix. Great show on Korean immigrants running a bodega in Toronto.

 

[Alpo]

Yes.

You are the only poster I know that posts pictures instead of links as evidence. I guess when everyone except a couple who question you are OK with the practice

The only one not on your ignore list, you mean...

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Yes.

You are the only poster I know that posts pictures instead of links.

Does it inconvenience you? If you were going to fact check the link, fact check the screenshot. If you weren’t, it’s a screenshot of what the link would be.

Here.



Pick one and I’ll post the link for you.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

The only one not on your ignore list, you mean...

Yet

 

[Alpo]

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Keep up. Or you'll have to wait for the short bus.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Keep up. Or you'll have to wait for the short bus.

We have multiple short buses. I’ll catch the next one.

 

[Alpo]

That's a choo-choo train, young man.

 

[Ziggidy]

It has questionable effectiveness over time and against new variants.

How do you (they) know this? I have heard the top docs say it IS helpful against new variants.