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  • actaeon277

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    When people ask why you can't get by with 10, or 5 shot mags... show them.

    How much did this guy soak up.
    And he's still playing with the knife.
     

    Ark

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    Do officer's get ambushed frequently nowadays?

    Ouch, the second officer nearly got smoked trying to assist the casualty. Hard lesson to ignore people wounded on the ground until the threat is dealt with.

    The description is more hot pursuit turned ambush, but unfortunately police have always been vulnerable to ambush and it's always happened at varying rates. They have to respond to calls, and they have to pursue. Both are prime ambush opportunities.
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    He gave this person way more warning, and time than I would have. This person was literally chasing him around his car, and the LEO kept warning.

    How much does an officer have to warn a person before they are allowed to act?

    Is there a certain criteria?

    Come to find out later it was an airsoft gun.


    Law of self-defense applies to all. Warnings are departmental policy, not law.

    That was self-defense without question.
     

    phylodog

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    Do you really, really wanna bet your life on some chick's word that it's not a real gun?
    I know the answer to that. Father's Day 2008 after a short vehicle pursuit, I was told by the dispatcher that the man I was staring at 30 yds from me with an AK47 in his mouth was holding a toy gun. Three seconds later he proved that information to be false.
     

    Ark

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    I know the answer to that. Father's Day 2008 after a short vehicle pursuit, I was told by the dispatcher that the man I was staring at 30 yds from me with an AK47 in his mouth was holding a toy gun. Three seconds later he proved that information to be false.
    Bummer. That probably made a mess.

    I really don't want to see people getting put in the ground over plastic toy guns but, man, there are really important life or death reasons why you simply can't assume and can't take anyone's word for it.
     

    Twangbanger

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    Wonder what INGO thinks of the "vibe check the armed robbery suspect by hucking a flashbang out the window at him like a baseball" tactic.

    That looked like a super-fun stage idea. The LL shotgun jammed to oblivion added Sunday-afternoon C-Class realism.
     
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