is there any way to check if a LEO is really on duty even though he is not in uniform

[UncleMike]

They are always on duty, there power doest stop at the time clock.

Yup it's 24/7.
An Officer out of uniform and not in a marked car can observe, and swear upon his oath, to a witnessed traffic violation but he/she may not stop the violator.
Mike

 

[j706]

Yup it's 24/7.
An Officer out of uniform and not in a marked car can observe, and swear upon his oath, to a witnessed traffic violation but he/she may not stop the violator.
Mike

True but only for TRAFFIC violation. And as a former reserve officer I have never heard of an agency that limits reserve officers off duty powers. Maybe Marion county does but it is uncommon. The majority of Indiana officers are just that,LEO's. 24/7

 

[UncleMike]

True but only for TRAFFIC violation. And as a former reserve officer I have never heard of an agency that limits reserve officers off duty powers. Maybe Marion county does but it is uncommon. The majority of Indiana officers are just that,LEO's. 24/7

Yup.
That's what this discussion is about.
I stated the procedure for filing on a traffic violation when not in uniform or in a marked unit. Non traffic arrests can be made anytime.
Mike

 

[irishfan]

Yup it's 24/7.
An Officer out of uniform and not in a marked car can observe, and swear upon his oath, to a witnessed traffic violation but he/she may not stop the violator.
Mike

So if you commit a violation you are better off going pedal to the metal

 

[UncleMike]

So if you commit a violation you are better off going pedal to the metal

NOT!!!
Your best bet is to avoid breaking the Law.
Mike

 

[downzero]

Here you go:

IC 9-30-2-2
Uniform and badge; marked police vehicle
Sec. 2. A law enforcement officer may not arrest or issue a traffic information and summons to a person for a violation of an Indiana law regulating the use and operation of a motor vehicle on an Indiana highway or an ordinance of a city or town regulating the use and operation of a motor vehicle on an Indiana highway unless at the time of the arrest the officer is:
(1) wearing a distinctive uniform and a badge of authority; or
(2) operating a motor vehicle that is clearly marked as a police vehicle;
that will clearly show the officer or the officer's vehicle to casual observations to be an officer or a police vehicle. This section does not apply to an officer making an arrest when there is a uniformed officer present at the time of the arrest.
As added by P.L.2-1991, SEC.18.


Now, in Maynard v. State (I think), it was held that if no contact between the officer and the defendant occurrs, that doesn't apply. For example, an officer views someone driving, and he knows for a fact that person's driving privileges were revoked. He can draft an information, probable cause affidavit, and a traffic ticket, and drop them off at the prosecutor's office for further action. In this type of situation, he wouldn't be performing a traffic stop.

Look what two minutes on Google reveals. Google is your friend.

This is great! Thank you so much.

This is a really great law, I think.

 

[redneckmedic]

These two idiots were clearly out to cause trouble. I'm sure that will find some resistance on this board but whatever. It's easy to recognize that kind of instigation. I'm curious what these two fellers do for funds. Why aren't they working?

However I do have a hard time finding the balance between these two very interesting concepts:

1. Some cops are on a power trip and will be a jerk just because they can.
2. People should show Police officers more respect and quit screwing with them.

 

[downzero]

People do not owe any respect to police officers. They are public servants and they work for us. They do, however, deserve our contempt when they violate our constitutional rights, using force and intimidation for no reason. A suspicionless stop and detention is ILLEGAL. It doesn't matter if it's done by a police officer--it's still a violation of the law.

 

[phylodog]

People do not owe any respect to police officers.

People who believe this should expect the same in return and stop getting their panties in a wad when it happens.

As an adult, in this country, you should show respect to anyone until they give you reason not to.

 

[serpicostraight]

These two idiots were clearly out to cause trouble. I'm sure that will find some resistance on this board but whatever. It's easy to recognize that kind of instigation. I'm curious what these two fellers do for funds. Why aren't they working?

However I do have a hard time finding the balance between these two very interesting concepts:

1. Some cops are on a power trip and will be a jerk just because they can.
2. People should show Police officers more respect and quit screwing with them.

did i miss something? all i seen was 2 guys walking down the road how is that looking to instigate the cops? unless we are already at the point where you have to show your papers to the jbts for doing nothing. if we are i didnt get the email somebody clue me in.

 

[IndyMonkey]

People who believe this should expect the same in return and stop getting their panties in a wad when it happens.

As an adult, in this country, you should show respect to anyone until they give you reason not to.

but...but....ah, never mind.

 

[redneckmedic]

did i miss something? all i seen was 2 guys walking down the road how is that looking to instigate the cops? unless we are already at the point where you have to show your papers to the jbts for doing nothing. if we are i didnt get the email somebody clue me in.

I never said instigate cops, just out instigating in general. I'm sure they could claim it to be innocent, but come on, its very obvious what they are trying to do.

 

[downzero]

People who believe this should expect the same in return and stop getting their panties in a wad when it happens.

As an adult, in this country, you should show respect to anyone until they give you reason not to.

We might still be subjects of the King if the Framers believed in this.

Fortunately they had enough brains to be presumptively skeptical of any government agent's behavior, even though they could be executed for it.

 

[downzero]

I never said instigate cops, just out instigating in general. I'm sure they could claim it to be innocent, but come on, its very obvious what they are trying to do.

Utilize their God-given and constitutionally-protected right to political expression, while exercising their right to travel?

 

[redneckmedic]

Utilize their God-given and constitutionally-protected right to political expression, while exercising their right to travel?

Thats right, thats what they were doing.

 

[redneckmedic]

 

[phylodog]

 

[serpicostraight]

im still missing something here i did see at the end of the video where the guy was in the orange jumpsuit and the effingham cop showed up and had a great attitude and handled the situation correctly. but the rest of it all i saw was 2 guys walking down the road and cops stopping them and demanding thier papers and insisting they turn off that handheld lie detector.

 

[phylodog]

Nope. That's what you saw, or at least what they decided to show on their edited video.

Of course it is quite simply not possible that they were doing anything other than walking down the street, to draw the attention of LE. I'm sure they had no plans of editing their video and putting it on the interweb until the were repeatedly stopped by LE for doing absolutely nothing other than walking while holding a sign.

 

[45calibre]

the sign said "real christian dont support war" or something of that nature.