no just like in the 1920'sThat's right. Just like in those old Bronson movies.
no just like in the 1920'sThat's right. Just like in those old Bronson movies.
Question? How is it ok for background checks on dealer purchases, but not ok for ANY purchases? Should it not be one or the other? (background check for everyone, or background check for no one)
I felt 'why should dealers be singled out?'... if a background check is required for them, why not everyone? I was certainly not for 'registration' and all with a new background check system... fbi is only told handgun or long gun... any 'tracing' needs to be done through the dealer... while I realize it is possible, it is not instantaneous... nor recorded in a national database. Yet I see posts stating that my voting 'yes' equates me to some liberal who wishes to abolish guns entirely
I'll ask you, too. How do you make this work without mandatory registration with 100% compliance?
How would the government know if I sold you a firearm and didn't do the background check, if they didn't have records of every single gun owner in the country, and what guns they own?
I'm just asking...
I'd assume if someone was caught in a crime with a gun, they'd fess up to whomever they bought it from. If that was a dealer, the dealer would check his records and say 'he passed the background check' and it would be moot.
How would this be any different from an individual purchase if background checks using nics was necessary in any transaction?
Case # or something to be recorded from Nics?
I don't know... I guess I am too new. Since I got into guns, ffl's is all I have known to exist. To me the NICS seems to protect the gun shop more than anything... I guess I'd like to think that long term such a 'universal' (not obama's 'universal') background check would create a more responsible gun culture... Not much different than many here who want to see pinks and DL's when doing a transaction to make sure they are 'selling to the right person'.
Whats the harm in a back ground check? I say do it!
Because a private sale between 2 people in the same state isn't within the federal government's jurisdiction. It's a state responsibility.
Allowing the government to control your everyday life isn't how the government was set up to operate. Small government is the answer. Enforce the laws on the books before you go and try to add more. A little common sense goes a long way.
There's a difference between wanting background checks and not wanting to go to jail because you accidentally ran afoul of the law against selling a firearm to a known felon.
I believe most gunowners want more background checks. Anything for that warm fuzzy feeling Big Brother can give you.
I disagree. It may take a different poll to see the truth, but I think you are implying that they only ask to see LTCH before a private sale to ensure they do not break a law.
I submit that the majority of the folks who ask to see a LTCH before a private sale do so because they have the common sense to know that not everyone should be able to go out and purchase a firearm.
I whole heartedly believe in the second amendment and our right to be free of "Big Brother", however the fact remains that there are individuals, who have through their own personal actions, forfeited that right.
If only 80% of private sales are done by individuals that are responsible enough to ask for a LTCH, than 20% of them *could be going to evil men with a proven track record of foul intentions.
And what if somebody decided not to comply? How would the government know if I sold you a gun and you didn't have the piece of paper, or I didn't make the phone call?