Black rattle can at 2am is usually a shoulder shrugging event when being questioned.Then they'll arrest you for DUI on your tractor and use the camera for evidence...can't win against the central state
The cell phone / GPS data we're discussing. Companies gather the data, package it up, and companies can subscribe and/or buy that data...What data do you have unfettered access to?
They make YOU pay for them? Are you sh.tting me? Wow.They’re being promoted all over our area here in Zionsville and HOAs are being asked if they want to install hem. Fortunately my neighborhood said no.
we would have had to pay a fee to install and maintain cameras that absolutely have the ability to invade our privacy. No thanks.
I believe they are leased, and roughly $2k annually per camera. Obviously negotiated based on number of cameras and HOA versus Government lease.Curious how much something like that sells for. Like the internet, I've always figured everything they can collect on you has some value. Maybe now companies are selling everywhere you go, where you shop, who you visit.
I'm not doubting that one bit. But could you imagine a world like the tv show "Person of Interest" in the world of "the Terminator".The Flock cameras aren't for issuing citations. They aren't for running red lights or speeding. They are simply for building a searchable database of everyone's movements...
I’m sure with an upgrade here or there and they could also use those to tax you for driving the wrong kinds of cars too often or too much….nah, that would never happen.Add in facial recognition, and these should work wonders when local governments start instituting 15 minute cities.
That and more is exactly what will happen, and the will be okay with that.I’m sure with an upgrade here or there and they could also use those to tax you for driving the wrong kinds of cars too often or too much….nah, that would never happen.
Right to privacy how? You are traveling in public, on public streets.I understand this helps you do your job and it's not a amendment rights violation, can you honestly say this isn't a invasion of privacy?
Let's say if you weren't a member of law enforcement???
Explain this. How the two are the same.
FLOCK is just a technologically advanced version of this without the delay of showing your papers.
These are not traffic cameras.Nashville Tn tried to put those up around town. The people fought back and won. I found out than that when you get caught doing something on a traffic camera in that state. You are not penalized anyway shape or form. Insurance won't be notified, no points off of your licenses, and you can't be turned over to a collection agency. But by law you are required to pay the fine. And you can be sued by the agency that owns and operates the cameras. And not long after that, I got busted for going under a red light. Got a ticket in the mail even stating all the above and a couple threatening letters. Then I moved back up here and had no problems getting my DL and tags transferred back. TN people don't like being spied on by any means. I would say that you should talk to your state senator or representative and see if you can get something done statewide.
I know. There are many traffic cameras up throughout the state of TN. Was trying to make a point that Nashville wanted the plate readers and the people shot it down. They despise being spied on and had taken the teeth out of enforcement of traffic cameras in the past.These are not traffic cameras.
What data are we talking about here? Make, model, color of vehicles they record? BMV information is not available to FLOCK, there are state/federal laws regarding the dissemination of that information.You can be sure that they're being operated at a profit, and it's either your tax dollars or your data being monetized, or BOTH.
So you are okay with agencies tracking your whereabouts?
Society has given over their privacy the minute they embraced smart phones. FLOCK doesn't track people, it's a vehicle database, snapshots of the rear of vehicles that pass by. Smartphones on the other hand, GPS your every movement and ARE evasive. Even the microphones are constantly active.The Flock cameras aren't for issuing citations. They aren't for running red lights or speeding. They are simply for building a searchable database of everyone's movements...
I believe the issue is observing vs recording and storing.Society has given over their privacy the minute they embraced smart phones. FLOCK doesn't track people, it's a vehicle database, snapshots of the rear of vehicles that pass by. Smartphones on the other hand, GPS your every movement and ARE evasive. Even the microphones are constantly active.
So your saying this type of information has never been compromised in any other local? Glad to see laws are having a 100% success rate.What data are we talking about here? Make, model, color of vehicles they record? BMV information is not available to FLOCK, there are state/federal laws regarding the dissemination of that information.
Will LE make the assumption that the owner is driving the vehicle passed one of these cameras when they decide to issue a citation? Will it be up to the owner to prove he was not the driver?Society has given over their privacy the minute they embraced smart phones. FLOCK doesn't track people, it's a vehicle database, snapshots of the rear of vehicles that pass by. Smartphones on the other hand, GPS your every movement and ARE evasive. Even the microphones are constantly active.