Kirk Freeman
Grandmaster
TTravis, no offense intended, but we know this because . . . ?
Indiana recognizes everyone, training is not a consideration.
Yes. It is extremely bad. You're suffering from "Well, it doesn't affect me so, eff everyone else" disease. It's why we have so many gun laws now. The hunters support pistol laws because it doesn't affect their hunting. The self-defense carriers support rifle bans because it doesn't affect their Glock, and so forth. ALL gun infringements should be removed. Not just the ones that don't personally affect you.
Never, but it never ceases to Amaze me that some folk here at INGO are willing to give up their Freedom without a Fuss
Actually ,I would like to find State Senators willing to propose legislation that recipricates terms with our neighbor to the west. Illinois residents should show us proof of training and pay $300 to aquire an Indiana LTCH....any ideas how to push this idea?
First, as far as the relationship to Travon's case goes, I believe Florida has a training requirement....
Second, before we change any Indiana laws we need a study comparing our statistics ( murder rates, accidents, etc.) with states with stricter laws.
Unless there is strong evidence that suggests that training makes people more responible or much better shots it's pointless.
I would agree to get training if we changed to a two tier system and could gt prior agreement from most of those states that require training, including Illinois....as it sets now, we can only carry in the land of Lincoln if we aquire their permit at a cost of $300 ,not including paperwork and in state training
( $150-$250 more)...
Actually ,I would like to find State Senators willing to propose legislation that recipricates terms with our neighbor to the west. Illinois residents should show us proof of training and pay $300 to aquire an Indiana LTCH....any ideas how to push this idea?
Most on INGO gladly gave up that freedom with the introduction of the lifetime LTCH and barely batted an eye at that infringement.
At least we have a lifetime license option. I came from Michigan and you have to repeatedly relinquish your right every 5 years and pay big $$ to do so.
TTravis, no offense intended, but we know this because . . . ?
Indiana recognizes everyone, training is not a consideration.
What is the difference really? You paid for your privilege to get your lifetime instead of doing it every few years, you still do not have a right to carry a handgun.
All I am saying is that some states look down on Indiana LTCH because we do not meet their requirements.
I know you are a lawyer and want a specific reference.
I don't have a reference for you but it was my understanding that some states don't want to honor our LTCH because:
1: We allow people to get LTCH without training, and their state requires training.
2: We do not have a picture on our LTCH.
This has been discussed on INGO before.
Training, even if not required could be noted or stamped on the LTCH, and a picture would be easy enough.
All I am saying is that some states look down on Indiana LTCH because we do not meet their requirements.
Don't get me wrong. I would like to be able to carry in any state with my Indiana LTCH as it is. I would like
to be able to carry anywhere without a LTCH. I do wish other states wold have our policy of recognizing everyone.
Bunnykid is correct. Carrying a handgun in Indiana is a criminal offense (with certain exceptions) unless you have paid permission from your masters.
"Reading comprehension testing prior to exercising one's right to vote" may not be all bad. Look what the current system got us!I fully support people getting training...voluntarily. I would no more support manditory training for gun ownership or carry than I would reading comprehension testing prior to exercising one's right to vote. Well meaning people open the floodgates of allowing conditions upon rights and then realize later that they have no rights anymore.