Indiana Constitutional Carry-Summer Study thread (2017)

[2A_Tom]

I think you mean in the last paragraph "no" perceptible rise in crime, correct?

Dang! I copied that into Word and corrected all of my spelling mistakes and proof read it twice.

Yes, but I do not think they will give me the benefit of the doubt.

 

[2A_Tom]

I hope the live feed works for me this time.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Hopefully facts and truth wins the day.

Amen

 

[actaeon277]

Unlikely, the standard for public officials to sue for libel is very high and from what I can read of that article I don't see anything that even gets close.

True. I guess outright lies don't qualify. Just seems wrong to me.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Here's the link for live video. The session starts at 10 AM:

https://iga.in.gov/legislative/2017/meeting/watchlive/ef192847-6a21-4e3e-beaf-e24c195b12f8/

Someone tell them to flip the switch!

 

[Kurr]

Bah, i got no video yet

 

[brotherbill3]

Just starting now - video at least.

 

[Thor]

12 People registered to testify.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Just starting now - video at least.

I'm getting nothing.

 

[MarkC]

I'm getting nothing.

Same here.

 

[Thor]

Mr Curry, Marion Cty Prosecutor. Opposed.

Stats - 651 major gun cases. 1100 including misd's. 101 1st offense no LTCH. There were other offenses they were arrested for also. Listed gun crimes over the weekend...

This has nothing to do with legal citizens carrying...except those made criminals by this specific law.

Says it's an officer safety issue...as if the LTCH makes the officer more safe when approaching an armed criminal.

 

[brotherbill3]

I hope Guy tackles the "furtive motions" ... crap from Terry Curry re "Officer Safety" ... I am able to listen a bit today ...

 

[Thor]

It's a tool they use to investigate / prosecute other crimes.

Thinks the discussion should be on sentencing and harsher penalties. Says the permit is a reasonable requirement 'that takes virtually no time to complete'.

 

[Kurr]

Still no video or audio

 

[brotherbill3]

It took a minute for the video to load and I had to hit the button a few times.

 

[Thor]

Q - how many of those felonies had an LTCH? Sounds like none.

Sounds like 43 were arrested for no LTCH only. The only felony cases were no LTCH as a second offense. He is arguing against the removal of the LTCH because it removes a crime...

 

[Fargo]

Q - how many of those felonies had an LTCH? Sounds like none.

Sounds like 43 were arrested for no LTCH only. The only felony cases were no LTCH as a second offense. He is arguing against the removal of the LTCH because it removes a crime...

Carrying without a LTCH by a person with a prior felony conviction within the last 15 years is probably a good chunk of those felony cases. I see that enhancement much more often than than the 2nd offense enhancement.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

It took a minute for the video to load and I had to hit the button a few times.

Link? I must have the wrong because still nothing.

 

[brotherbill3]

Terry "Statist" Curry. ... ugh ...

 

[2A_Tom]

video does not work.