I guess its just me, If I get stopped, for any reason and they want to search my vehicle, Go for it.
If they rang my doorbell and asked to look around my apartment, go for it. Do I have the RIGHT to refuse, well yeah.
But why?
I guess its just me, If I get stopped, for any reason and they want to search my vehicle, Go for it.
If they rang my doorbell and asked to look around my apartment, go for it. Do I have the RIGHT to refuse, well yeah.
But why?
If you would NEVER allow yourself to be disarmed by someone else, then what will you do when the LEO illegally demands that you surrender your firearm? Not notifying the LEO can keep you from being put in that situation. I know that OH law requires that you inform, but is that the law or a condition of your license? If it is a condition of your license you're correct, you must abide by that here in IN. If not, you are not required to follow OH law in IN. For example, It is against the law to carry into a bar in OH, however you could legally carry with an OH license here.I never said anything about "unarming" oneself. I would NEVER allow to be unarmed unless I am being arrested for a crime. I am sorry but the only person that can tell me to remove my firearm, when I'm carrying legally, is myself. Notifying a LEO that I'm armed does not bother me, and is required by my specific carry permit that I'm legally obligated to. And in my own personal experiences I have not had any issues with it.
When the officer asked if you know why he was pulling you over you should have said "oh sorry, I thought you would know".
Seriously - I really believe in being very pollite and a regular guy when the police pull me over and I assume most people feel the same. Nobody wants a ticket. However, I have always felt weird about those questions of "where are you headed tonight" or "where are you comming from"? They are not asking just because they want to talk. They are asking for the simple fact that they want to see if you may be a criminal.
I don't like them trying to figure out if I may have done something wrong. If I match the description of a perp or I pulled out of an active crime scene - fine. But if I am just driving a little fast then you don't have the right to know where I am coming from or what I am doing.
Now I must say that I NEVER get out of a ticket and it does not matter how nice I am - I always get the ticket! Actually, I like to refer to them as a driving certificate. It just sounds more pleasant
If he asked about my gun then I would probably say yes I have one and yes I have a permit to carry. If he then entered my car to search after having that information I would spend my last dime fighting that one in court.
I do not have to prove that I am not a criminal and I do not have to prove that I don't have anything I shouldn't. They hav to have probable cause and they have to then prove that I did do something wrong other than speeding.
Sorry I'm not going to hang myself, I just don't assume all cops are out to get me.
Example
My friend got pulled over on 465 by a STATE TROOPER (the worst of em right?)
for 120 in a 55. that ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY IN A FIFTY FIVE
O:Sir do you know how fast you were going
Friend:120 Sir
Where you heading?: Mall to meet some friends
Ill need to see your license ect ect.....
Officer wrote him a warning just for being respectful.
could have thrown his a** in jail for reckless driving.
I just think if your respectful, they can be too.
I'm not all about this "fight the power" crap. Just follow the law, and stay under the radar.
I love the arguments everyone gets into on this site, its like no one is allowed to have a different opinion.
Sorry I'm not going to hang myself, I just don't assume all cops are out to get me.
I love the arguments everyone gets into on this site, its like no one is allowed to have a different opinion.
I must be doing something wrong as I've never had an officer ask me such questions.
Maybe your dumb butt friend that was doing 120mph stuffed a bag of weed
in your passenger seat or your couch cushion at some point.
Hypothetical and all but the cop that finds that is not going to believe you are a good citizen with nothing to hide.
Honest ostifer!!!! That's not mine!!!!!
Sure pal, place you hands behind your back.
I can decline to answer any question without being disrespectful. I can also refuse to consent to a search of my property without being disrespectful. I have had a county sheriff and an ISP detective in my family. I was raised to have a great deal of respect for law enforcement. When the person wearing the badge ceases to enforce the law and begins to violate it, they are no longer are worthy of that respect.Sorry I'm not going to hang myself, I just don't assume all cops are out to get me.
Example
My friend got pulled over on 465 by a STATE TROOPER (the worst of em right?)
for 120 in a 55. that ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY IN A FIFTY FIVE
O:Sir do you know how fast you were going
Friend:120 Sir
Where you heading?: Mall to meet some friends
Ill need to see your license ect ect.....
Officer wrote him a warning just for being respectful.
could have thrown his a** in jail for reckless driving.
I just think if your respectful, they can be too.
I'm not all about this "fight the power" crap. Just follow the law, and stay under the radar.
I love the arguments everyone gets into on this site, its like no one is allowed to have a different opinion.
Well they could be looking for a stolen generator, which I most certainly wouldn't have, but see the CD I copied from my friend and get me for federal piracy. Remember Richard Jewel, the Olympic Park bomber subject who was actually a hero? The FBI searched his house and carried out boxes of "evidence" for the media cameras to photograph. In fact the FBI called the media and told them when they would be searching. It turned out all they carried out was his tupperware and all of his Disney videos. They made him look like he was a criminal when he was a hero. He had to sue to get his stuff back. He won and the FBI said that he could swing by the office and retrieve his items. He told them they took them from his house and they will return them to his house. They agreed, but said if there were any media there, they would drive right on by. He had nothing to hide too. They searched his house without his permission, I realize, but I am just saying that unintended consequences can result from saying, "I have nothing to hide. Look all you want." We were taught at the academy that when you ask someone if you can search their property/car and they ask what will happen if they decline, we could not say, "We will get a search warrant and then search," because that is coercion. But that is exactly what would have happened. In the military, the judges would give permission to search at the drop of a hat. Sucks, I know.I guess its just me, If I get stopped, for any reason and they want to search my vehicle, Go for it.
If they rang my doorbell and asked to look around my apartment, go for it. Do I have the RIGHT to refuse, well yeah.
But why?