somethin' startin' to stink in here. It seems evasive and I am about to put someone in cuffs until we get to the bottom of this and get some truthful answers to these questions
How come we can't find out what the stop was for or if he had his permit with him?
No. The officer has no rights. He only has authority. Authority granted to him by the [STRIKE]state[/STRIKE] people.
My mother always taught me you'll catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
My goal when pulled over is to leave without a ticket. I have found that, for me, that's best accomplished by not being a prick. YMMV.
Oh, I'd much prefer chatty. I'm naturally a chatty person.
Unfortunately, a few officers will cuff you, disarm you, search your vehicle and/or still give you a ticket at some point while "chatting" with them.
I won't know which type I'm dealing with until it's over so I'll err on the side of strictly business.
If it were just chatty conversation, then I, as one of the participants, should be able to steer the convo to a subject I enjoy. I don't really care for that kind of chat.
If it were truly just chatting, I should also be able to "chat" back: "Where are you coming from? Where are you going? Do you realize it's dangerous to carry your firearm in that manner?" Oh yeah, that'd go well.
The chatty ones have all been the ones that issue me a citation, except for the one that asked if I was related to so and so. Cautiously I said yes and found out it was the officer that arrested him for urinating on his cop car from on top of a football stadium. Amazingly I got a warning.
Yes I had my permit. The stop was for not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign. I was not ticketed...
I also have a serious question.... Lets say Your on your way to the hospital, Maybe your dad just had a heart attack, Your wife is in the middle of giving birth, whatever the case may be...Bam, you get stopped for speeding.
Are you going to tell the officer your on your way to the hospital because your wife is giving birth? Or just let him take his time in his car, No rush, maybe chat you up, taking even more time....Ask for permits....more time....Sloooowly write you that ticket you deserve...more time...
Because according to you guys its really none of his business. why would you tell him. Its not like maybe hes been in that situation, and may try to speed things up for you.
Maybe he has your view? and by telling him, hes going to agree thats none of his business and ignore it?
just curious.
And valid, but just for the record, I got a quick 'have a nice night, slow down' in exactly the same situation. My wife had just given birth, I'd made a quick run out to the office to grab some things, was headed back to the hospital to hang out for a while and was driving a little too fast. He pulled me over, walked up, noticed the bracelet, asked what it was for. I told him, very briefly, he told me to watch my speed and have a nice night, congratulations, and consider this a congratulations gift. Yes, there are some LEOs out there who are pricks or power hungry, there are some who are incompetent, there are some who are all kinds of things, just like in every other profession or group, but there are a lot who are decent people trying to make a living and do their best at their jobs. No, I'm not a LEO, have never been, don't have any relatives who are.Me experience, they don't effing care around here. I had the nursery bracelet on my wrist that lets me on the delivery/nursery floor and the JBT told me bull**** and called me a liar, no purple here. There was also a recent news story where a guy was escorted by police at high speed on the highway because his wife was in labor and once they arrived they issued him a citation.
And valid, but just for the record, I got a quick 'have a nice night, slow down' in exactly the same situation. My wife had just given birth, I'd made a quick run out to the office to grab some things, was headed back to the hospital to hang out for a while and was driving a little too fast. He pulled me over, walked up, noticed the bracelet, asked what it was for. I told him, very briefly, he told me to watch my speed and have a nice night, congratulations, and consider this a congratulations gift. Yes, there are some LEOs out there who are pricks or power hungry, there are some who are incompetent, there are some who are all kinds of things, just like in every other profession or group, but there are a lot who are decent people trying to make a living and do their best at their jobs. No, I'm not a LEO, have never been, don't have any relatives who are.
I say bravo to you for keeping your composure and handling the situation with tact. I don't agree with the officer removing your weapon, wonder what he would think if he were off duty, out of town and told a cop standing at his window that he was carrying and the officer treated him the same way? Doubt he would be to happy about it either....What can you do, it's the world we live in.