I SHALL NOT BE KILLED BY A MAN WITH DRY KNICKERS!
And when are we going to get THAT put on a t-shirt?
I SHALL NOT BE KILLED BY A MAN WITH DRY KNICKERS!
Why do we not have a right to own a car? Do not tell me because it is not in the Constitution.
We have a right to everything we have worked for.
And when are we going to get THAT put on a t-shirt?
How can you guarantee that none of your vehicles would take a life? The only way to be sure is to destroy them.
You do not have a right to own a car. You do have a right to keep and bear arms. That right shall not be infringed which means no one should be able to decide how I keep and bear arms.
Why do we not have a right to own a car? Do not tell me because it is not in the Constitution.
We have a right to everything we have worked for.
Who thinks cars are not on the list to restrict and ban?
Anybody ever hear of government mandated mileage ratings?
Want an incandescent light bulb? Sorry *******!
Can't have too much salt, no soda over 16 oz.
Nanny state mentality does not end.
It only devours and keeps on going.
It is insatiable.
We have the right to own cars.It's just not recognized by the constitution.
Tried to rep you but I am all whored out.Who thinks cars are not on the list to restrict and ban?
Anybody ever hear of government mandated mileage ratings?
Want an incandescent light bulb? Sorry *******!
Can't have too much salt, no soda over 16 oz.
Nanny state mentality does not end.
It only devours and keeps on going.
It is insatiable.
Our rights are not derived from the Natural rights. They have their basis in the Word of God. Even the Atheists that helped write the constitution recognized the Bible as a document that held immense sway on their thinking. This country was founded on biblical principles and not on natural principles (which are subject to current trends and opinions) If you want to see what a government founded upon Natural law does look at France and the former Soviet Union. They fail miserably. Our is destined to fail the further we allow our rights to be subjected to current thinking and not on the biblical foundation upon which this country was founded.
By the way it is 50 quality posts! not just 50 posts.
Here is an article on it. However, I concede that the point I was trying to make is not supported by this data. Gun related deaths will surpass auto accidents as the number one case of non-medical related deaths (cancer, for example will continue to be higher) My bad for the misinformation.
Gun deaths in America projected to soon top car fatalities - Americas - World - The Independent
You do not have a right to own a car. You do have a right to keep and bear arms. That right shall not be infringed which means no one should be able to decide how I keep and bear arms.
Page count is exploding, so I again apologize if I overlook some posts. If you want a response and I have missed it, please post it again.
For whoever linked the Massad Ayoob article - Good Read. Thank you. A single takeaway quote from that is this:
Americans have historically modeled their choices of home protection and personal defense handguns on what the cops carried. From that, I can be argued that if the Police need a high capacity magazine, then why not a non-enforcement citizen. That is good stuff. Thank you again.
Natural law and natural rights are directly linked. They cannot be decoupled for a specific argument. You now say our rights are NOT derived from natural rights, however it has been argued earlier in this thread that they were. You need to bring your argument to them on that point.
With regard to the biblical foundations of the country, you are also misinterpreting. The founders built into the Constitution and Declaration elements of St Thomas. Thomas Jefferson as good as quoted Aquinas in the Declaration. On the other side, they went to great lengths to separate the state and religion. Most founders, including Jefferson where not overly religious, with at least a dozen or more denominations represented in the history of the framers. Indicating the desire to keep religion out of the state (and the state out of religion)
To declare gun ownership is a God given right seems to bear no actual proof or historical precedent.
I would say you are limiting my ability to defend myself as effectively as possible. The magazine is part of the arm.Quite right. However, if your 30 round magazine is taken and you are just left with a 10, or a number of 10 and your weapon, are you still not able to bear that arm? I have not suggested banning any weapons whatsoever. In fact, I think I said it would have little impact on violence. If you are unable to purchase new high capacity magazines, how is that right being infringed?
Just offering a counter-argument.
Quite right. However, if your 30 round magazine is taken and you are just left with a 10, or a number of 10 and your weapon, are you still not able to bear that arm? I have not suggested banning any weapons whatsoever. In fact, I think I said it would have little impact on violence. If you are unable to purchase new high capacity magazines, how is that right being infringed?
Just offering a counter-argument.
Don't worry about it, you're not likely to encounter any...What is a "rep"?
Don't worry about it, you're not likely to encounter any...
Not in the Constitution. No mention of God or Creator in the Constitution.You are right, they used the term our Creator I believe
Constitution only says the right to bear arms, not the unfettered right to bear arms. On the other hand, it does not say right to bear reasonable arms.I would say you are limiting my ability to defend myself as effectively as possible. The magazine is part of the arm.
Just wanted to know what I was missing.Don't worry about it, you're not likely to encounter any...
I never noticed that about the rep, thanks again my obnoxiously accented friendIt says "he's an unknown quantity at this point".