HELP: Banned from restaurant for CCW

[SkullDaddy.45]

Can't help but think of Blazing Saddles when Bart says " excuse me while I whip this out"

 

[Signal23]

What could he have been arrested for?

Brandishing a weapon in public

 

[Expat]

Brandishing a weapon in public

Could you show us brandishing in the Indiana Code?

 

[sig-guy]

If my understanding of Indiana law is correct, you should not have been carrying in a bar if you were consuming alcohol... snip

First, I can't believe I read all the way to page 16 before this was brought up. Bars are off limits to carry. You're not even supposed to be in the bar area of a restaurant.

No such Indiana law I've ever seen, re:carrying while drinking. It's a horrible idea, IMHO, but it's not illegal... snip

No carry in a bar, period. Can go into a restaurant that serves alcohol. But you're supposed to stay out of the bar area.

If I'm mistaken, my apologies now. But I do remember researching this in detail a while back.

 

[LEaSH]

First, I can't believe I read all the way to page 16 before this was brought up. Bars are off limits to carry. You're not even supposed to be in the bar area of a restaurant.



No carry in a bar, period. Can go into a restaurant that serves alcohol. But you're supposed to stay out of the bar area.

If I'm mistaken, my apologies now. But I do remember researching this in detail a while back.

Welcome to ingo.

You need to do more research because you're completely wrong about bars being off limits.

 

[T2D4]

First, I can't believe I read all the way to page 16 before this was brought up. Bars are off limits to carry. You're not even supposed to be in the bar area of a restaurant.



No carry in a bar, period. Can go into a restaurant that serves alcohol. But you're supposed to stay out of the bar area.

If I'm mistaken, my apologies now. But I do remember researching this in detail a while back.

the amount of misinformation that is passed around on this site as being legit is very sad and scary.

 

[actaeon277]

First, I can't believe I read all the way to page 16 before this was brought up. Bars are off limits to carry. You're not even supposed to be in the bar area of a restaurant.



No carry in a bar, period. Can go into a restaurant that serves alcohol. But you're supposed to stay out of the bar area.

If I'm mistaken, my apologies now. But I do remember researching this in detail a while back.

WRONG.
You cant find the appopriate Indiana Code, cause it doesn't exist.
Maybe you're thinking of another State.

 

[Hawkeye]

First, I can't believe I read all the way to page 16 before this was brought up. Bars are off limits to carry. You're not even supposed to be in the bar area of a restaurant.



No carry in a bar, period. Can go into a restaurant that serves alcohol. But you're supposed to stay out of the bar area.

If I'm mistaken, my apologies now. But I do remember researching this in detail a while back.

This is going to get interesting!

 

[Hawkeye]

Lets see, folks are piling on the OP for unholstering his handgun? Or is it unholstering AND unloading?

But isn't this just another form of open carry?

 

[actaeon277]

Na.
Now we're jumping on the no carry in bar comment.

 

[sig-guy]

Welcome to ingo.

You need to do more research because you're completely wrong about bars being off limits.

Thanks for the welcome.

I'm on the hunt... been looking for the info after I read the rest of the thread (after my post) when others stated it was legal. I was looking for the info a couple years ago... specifically to include Pubs that serve alcohol.

Normally, I'm 'not so quick' to post something I'm not sure on... but the details seem so clear. I just can't seem to find what I remember reading.

(nothing like posting inaccurate info for my first post)

 

[actaeon277]

Thanks for the welcome.

I'm on the hunt... been looking for the info after I read the rest of the thread (after my post) when others stated it was legal. I was looking for the info a couple years ago... specifically to include Pubs that serve alcohol.

Normally, I'm 'not so quick' to post something I'm not sure on... but the details seem so clear. I just can't seem to find what I remember reading.

(nothing like posting inaccurate info for my first post)

You might be thinking of another state.
Before making a comment like that, you might want to have the proof ready.
INGO is a "show me" type of place.
Telling the police "I heard it on the internet" doesn't hold up well.

Welcome to the forum Sig.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Thanks for the welcome.

I'm on the hunt... been looking for the info after I read the rest of the thread (after my post) when others stated it was legal. I was looking for the info a couple years ago... specifically to include Pubs that serve alcohol.

Normally, I'm 'not so quick' to post something I'm not sure on... but the details seem so clear. I just can't seem to find what I remember reading.

(nothing like posting inaccurate info for my first post)

to INGO, sig-guy.

You'll find that there are a number of members that are really well versed in the laws of Indiana as they pertain to firearms -- Bill of Rights is one of them. He's one of the few that if he states it, he's got a very good track record of being right on the money.

 

[sig-guy]

You might be thinking of another state.
Before making a comment like that, you might want to have the proof ready.
INGO is a "show me" type of place.
Telling the police "I heard it on the internet" doesn't hold up well.

Welcome to the forum Sig.

Thanks for the welcome.

I'm not thinking of another state... never lived anywhere else. I also don't just believe everything I read on the internet. I normally research it to be sure. I don't drink, so the bars are not a big concern to me, as I don't go in them. However, I was checking on this as I do visit restaurants that serve alcohol and sometimes go into Pubs.

Whatever I was reading, it included Pubs in the mix?
I'm going to check and see if it might be a local thing. I just can't put my finger on it right at the moment.

 

[actaeon277]

This isn't the Indiana Code. As I previously stated, IC has no mention, but here is an article.
States that Allow Guns in Bars - How is the World Going to End?
But I don' think the author stated his sources. Always check your sources when it involves jail or loss of LTCH.

 

[long coat]

Whatever I was reading, it included Pubs in the mix?
I'm going to check and see if it might be a local thing. I just can't put my finger on it right at the moment.

If it was a local thing, then it is now voided because SB292.

& welcome to

 

[Fishersjohn48]

You may be thinking of this http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/indiana.pdf that was posted earlier in the thread. It is from "Handgunlaw.US" and does not reference IC only recommends not going into a bar with a handgun. In this article they suggest that restaurants that serve alcohol, such as Chili's, Applebee's is ok. If you ask me, these "law" websites should refrain from printing opinion and stick to factual law.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Brandishing a weapon in public

Could you show us brandishing in the Indiana Code?

You beat me too it. I was guessing that is what he/she was going to post.

Thanks for the welcome.

I'm not thinking of another state... never lived anywhere else. I also don't just believe everything I read on the internet. I normally research it to be sure. I don't drink, so the bars are not a big concern to me, as I don't go in them. However, I was checking on this as I do visit restaurants that serve alcohol and sometimes go into Pubs.

Whatever I was reading, it included Pubs in the mix?
I'm going to check and see if it might be a local thing. I just can't put my finger on it right at the moment.

to
But what has been stated about there being nothing in IN code about carrying in bars is correct, same with drinking while carrying. And has also been mentioned IN has almost complete preemption of firearm laws. Localities can not for the most part place any restrictions on firearms that vary from state law.
Indiana Code 35-47-11.1
And IC 10-14-3-33.5
Indiana Code 10-14-3

 

[sig-guy]

You may be thinking of this http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/indiana.pdf that was posted earlier in the thread. It is from "Handgunlaw.US" and does not reference IC only recommends not going into a bar with a handgun. In this article they suggest that restaurants that serve alcohol, such as Chili's, Applebee's is ok. If you ask me, these "law" websites should refrain from printing opinion and stick to factual law.

That is part of it I'm sure. But I remember them listing police stations, post offices, courthouse, college, etc... which is not included in their 'places off-limits even with a permit/license'. I was also checking (back then) wether you could carry in city parks (which is why I thought it might be a local thing).

Has any of these laws changed in the past couple of years? Which would have made it legal now and not back then?

This has really got me to thinking... as its bugging the crap out of me!

 

[Marine1]

Yes they can ban you.

Its called Trespass.

Their property, their rules.

Generally speaking, never unholster a weapon in a public place. Bad form, good way to get tossed out.

If anything, be happy they didn't call the police and request you be formally 'trespassed' off the property. Doing that would legally ban you from the property. They did you a favor, said stay away for the rest of the year. What you did was pretty silly.

Well Said think before you act