Guy CC'ing in Store

[JetGirl]

I'm not going through 11 pages to find out. Has someone already asked how you knew any of this if the guy was "CC'ing?"

CC = Concealed Carry. If he was concealed, how do you know what condition he was carrying it in?

Did you mean OC (Open Carry)?

If you saw this he wasn't CCing.

Good Catch!

OC'ing

Thanks

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

Still wondering when folks will realize that the 1911 was designed to be carried in "condition 3"... And that it wasn't until 50+ years later that "condition 1" was utilized...

 

[whoismunky]

Sorry for being jumpy.

I hear many say it is not wise, but have failed to prove why.

I've got to say, I've always wondered what was so unsafe about carrying in this condition and it's nice to hear of someone who does it successfully. From the little I know, properly maintained guns don't go off without fingers on the trigger. +1 to you, sir. As a side note I personally can't get comfortable carrying a gun with an external safety, just because I'm afraid it will accidentally get bumped 'on' and I don't want to waste time sweeping it on every draw.

And for everyone saying John Browning designed the 1911 to be carried cocked and locked, from what I've read he originally made the gun with no thumb safety. I can't site a reference but I've always read that he thought the grip safety was sufficient, but the US Army asked him to add one. (FWIW)

 

[MickeyBlueEyes]

So we're strolling around a grocery store tonight, and saw a man CC'ing, which wasn't unusual, until I looked closer.

He was carrying a 1911 .45, and I could have swore the hammer was back on the gun.

Huh!!??

Yup, my glock gen1 only has 1 safety feature, the trigger. Considering how the proverbial hammer is always cocked on a striker fired gun, it's a Non -Issue to see any hammer cocked back on a Single Action only like a 1911. If it were a revolver, a lot of the ones coming out are Dual Action. Good eye though, Way to be Situationally Aware!

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

Yup, my glock gen1 only has 1 safety feature, the trigger. Considering how the proverbial hammer is always cocked on a striker fired gun, it's a Non -Issue to see any hammer cocked back on a Single Action only like a 1911. If it were a revolver, a lot of the ones coming out are Dual Action. Good eye though, Way to be Situationally Aware!

To get technical, your Gen1 Glock has 3 safeties...as do all Glocks as they leave the factory.

-J-

 

[SubicWarrior1988]

Condition one is the reason we don't say things like


"1911 leg"

 

[phylodog]

Reading this thread has made me bipolar. It's like an emotional roller coaster.

 

[jblomenberg16]

Reading this thread has made me bipolar. It's like an emotional roller coaster.

A roller coaster with loops in it too. If you were to carry a 1911, how would you carry it? (ya, I know, you mentioned your preference on Page 1 )

 

[phylodog]

If you were to carry a 1911, how would you carry it?

Round in the chamber, safety engaged, comfortably concealed.

 

[Cat-Herder]

A roller coaster with loops in it too. If you were to carry a 1911, how would you carry it?

cocked, and locked. the OP has probably figured it out by now that that's how you carry one....

 

[SSGSAD]

Round in the chamber, safety engaged, comfortably concealed.

I HOPE EVERYONE has a SENSE of HUMOR ..... I remember back in the day, B4 finger release holsters, MOST of the holsters, made for the 1911, WERE made to carry, guess now ..... COCKED & LOCKED. WHY ? Do you ask, because the LEATHER retention "strap", went BETWEEN the cocked hammer, and the slide of the gun ..... Anyone remember those "good ole days" ?????

 

[JetGirl]

Do you ask, because the LEATHER retention "strap", went BETWEEN the cocked hammer, and the slide of the gun ..... Anyone remember those "good ole days" ?????

I have two holsters like that. One has a removable strap, which I've unsnapped and removed (because I don't like it). The other, is in my "pile-o'-holsters" drawer.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

I HOPE EVERYONE has a SENSE of HUMOR ..... I remember back in the day, B4 finger release holsters, MOST of the holsters, made for the 1911, WERE made to carry, guess now ..... COCKED & LOCKED. WHY ? Do you ask, because the LEATHER retention "strap", went BETWEEN the cocked hammer, and the slide of the gun ..... Anyone remember those "good ole days" ?????

Ever bought a Bianchi holster? I bought two and they had a disclaimer not to holster a 1911 cocked and locked as they were designed for hammer down carry.

That was a few years ago though.

 

[thompal]

I don't get it? Where should the hammer be?

Well, if this were Illinois, I'd guess the hammer would have to be locked away separately, in a location only accessible by highly trained lemurs on alternate Tuesdays.

But since this is Indiana, I'd say a 1911 should be cocked and locked.

 

[JetGirl]

OP has probably figured it out by now that that's how you carry one....

Let's ask!

I could have swore the hammer was back on the gun.

And what do you think about that?

 

[thompal]

How so? Any Colt built after 1983 were made with firing pin blocks that will not allow the firing pin to travel forward, unless the trigger is depressed. How is that any more unsafe than condition 0?

Umm, because you have to press the trigger to put the hammer down to rest on the firing pin!!

 

[thompal]

How so? Any Colt built after 1983 were made with firing pin blocks that will not allow the firing pin to travel forward, unless the trigger is depressed. How is that any more unsafe than condition 0?

Also, many of us don't carry Colts, and of the number who do carry Colts, many of them were made well before 1983! (Mine was manuf. in 1943).