Gr666mer Updates

[XMil]

Then why do puberty blockers exist?

They exist because they were invented in the early 1930s for kids with precocious puberty. Maybe you shouldn't get your medical information from Tucker Carlson.

 

[Tombs]

They exist because they were invented in the early 1930s for kids with precocious puberty. Maybe you shouldn't get your medical information from Tucker Carlson.

So they're never used in the pursuit of "gender affirming care?"

 

[Route 45]

A hack piece from a far right fringe group doesn't help your case.

At least as relevant as your leftist hack source.

American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) - InfluenceWatch

The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) is a left-of-center organization comprised of pediatricians which claims to advocate for the medical welfare of children. Nominally nonpartisan, AAP has taken left-of-center stances on LGBT issues, gun control, and government-controlled healthcare in...

www.influencewatch.org

 

[BigRed]

So they're never used in the pursuit of "gender affirming care?"

Of course not...they're for precocious puberty.

Precocious puberty is rampant.

 

[Route 45]

Of course not...they're for precocious puberty.

Precocious puberty is rampant.

Not as rampant as ****ing good old insanity, apparently.

 

[XMil]

So they're never used in the pursuit of "gender affirming care?"

Yes they are, because they are safe and have been in use for almost 100 years. You've just been stirred up into a frenzy by propagandists using scary words that aren't true.

 

[buckwacker]

Not me, the American Academy of Pediatrics. The professional organization of nearly seventy thousand doctors who specialize in child health, that say you are wrong. Try again.

https://www.aap.org/​

So let's get straight to the point: how many kids have you groomed and\or are you currently grooming?

 

[XMil]

At least as relevant as your leftist hack source.

American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) - InfluenceWatch

The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) is a left-of-center organization comprised of pediatricians which claims to advocate for the medical welfare of children. Nominally nonpartisan, AAP has taken left-of-center stances on LGBT issues, gun control, and government-controlled healthcare in...

www.influencewatch.org

No. not even close.

 

[BigRed]

I identify as a golden eagle.

Affirm me, eaglephobe!

 

[buckwacker]

Yes they are, because they are safe and have been in use for almost 100 years. You've just been stirred up into a frenzy by propagandists using scary words that aren't true.

Safe and effective....where have we heard that before?

 

[Route 45]

No. not even close.

 

[drillsgt]

Not me, the American Academy of Pediatrics. The professional organization of nearly seventy thousand doctors who specialize in child health, that say you are wrong. Try again.

https://www.aap.org/​

You mean that far left group.

 

[Tombs]

Yes they are, because they are safe and have been in use for almost 100 years. You've just been stirred up into a frenzy by propagandists using scary words that aren't true.

That is castrating children, and now you've openly lied your way through this conversation.

 

[Route 45]

You mean that far left group.

You know it's a legit, non-partisan group of medical professionals. Why else would they chime in on gun control?

 

[Cameramonkey]

So let's get straight to the point: how many kids have you groomed and\or are you currently grooming?

Pump the brakes. You are getting danger close to crossing a line. Official warning.

Take it down a notch.

 

[jamil]

I'm starting to suspect you're either trans yourself, or perhaps you have a bestie or relative who is trans. And not that there's anything wrong with that. If you or they actually have real ass gender dysphoria, I get it. I have a cousin who transitioned years ago. It's that you're trying too hard for it just to be an ideological point to uphold. I mean, you're going at it as if it's personal. You'd have to be a bat **** crazy lunatic to be this offended on other people's behalf. Only far left wing nutters do that. And you said you weren't left wing.

Nobody used the word emergency, try to keep up. Tombs was trying (and failed) to be clever about kids not being able to consent but I pointed out the giant flaw in the "logic".

You did no such thing. That flaw is a figment of your imagination.

Tombs said, correctly, "Sometimes saving someone's life doesn't require their consent." Your point doesn't work unless it IS an emergency. That's the only way a minor gets surgery without consent. And then the hospital is taking a big liability risk.

So if it's not an emergency, for example, a minor had some kind of condition that would eventually become life-threatening, which non-emerggency surgery would presumably correct, the hospital would not touch that kid without a parent or legal guardian signing the papers.

Now you want to move the goal posts.

Well. Obviously not. So you didn't have to say "emergency". It must be logically implied because your point can't even work without it.

Your numbers are wrong, you don't know what you are talking about. You're just regurgitating Fox news talking points.

My numbers are correct. Supported by studies outside the US (where people have a delusional need to confirm their belief in nutty things).

The only study I could find that says gender-affirming care "saves" people is a study done by Harvard Medical School, which every bat **** crazy woke person likes to cite now. BTW HMS offers gender-affirming care, so it seems they'd have an incentive for this study to support what they're doing.

Across Europe, you know, that far right sanctuary of transphobes, have determined that the benefits of gender-affirming care is very low. Scandinavian countries and the UK have restricted that kind of care for minors. They can still get it, but the bar to qualify is very high because the consequences are permanent, contrary to woke delusions, and the benefits are slight and rare.

So about studies in the US. I think science is broken here. Too many interests, like money, politics, and social ideology influence it. As woke as US society is now, I strongly doubt that a US study from a school like HMS, could possibly conclude anything else. If no one from HMS were profiting from gender-affirming care, which they are, they still could not produce a study which did not give a glowing affirmation of gender affirmation. They wouldn't dare. The trans mob would utterly, mercilessly cancel them.

 

[jamil]

Yes they are, because they are safe and have been in use for almost 100 years. You've just been stirred up into a frenzy by propagandists using scary words that aren't true.

Uh. I think you're the one who's been propagandized. The problem with puberty blockers, it's not as reversible as claimed. It's not as safe as claimed. It causes brittle bones and horrible side effects. Also, it slows development of genitals, yes. But because of that, the genitals don't develop properly so if the person does want to alter their genitals at a later time, there's not enough there to do much with.

The whole point here is that minors don't have the ability to make informed choices for themselves. It is a drastic, consequential decision. And it looks more to me like adults are encouraging kids to become trans when they're probably not. Now, if a kid says he or she (those are the only two choices, afterall) is trans, no one questions it. They should. Push back. Find out. Are they really? Or is it just some kind of social pathogen type thing. I think it's mostly the latter.

For minors, don't affirm it. Help them cope with whatever they're going through. And when they become adults, and they still feel this way, they're free to make their own decisions.

 

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[BigRed]

Let's take a look at example of a book in the childrens' library:

Hastings kids have access to 'Gender Queer' book with sexually graphic pictures

Hastings Public Schools children can access "Gender Queer," a book that includes illustrations of sexual acts.

alphanews.org

Note: may be nsfw