Four Minneapolis officers fired after death of black man part II

[IndyDave1776]

Well I was an EMT for 8.5 years but I let that expire.

Probably a good choice. Otherwise you would be expected to bring dead perps back to life by laying on of hands.

 

[nonobaddog]

Has anyone mentioned that Chauvin’s supervisor, a detective, and Lt thought his use of force was excessive; and that Chauvin’s own lawyer tried to say that his knee was on his back, NOT his neck? We just gonna pass over that? It would seem to me that the defense’s only real chance at acquittal is that the dope in Floyd’s system killed him, and that Chauvin’s actions, while excessive, did not contribute. I think that’s an uphill battle.

That should probably throw him under the bus and get him time in the big house.

We have all seen officers lie in support of fellow officers charged with stuff. This sounds like it is just the opposite and will go a long way to get a conviction.

 

[Kutnupe14]

That should probably throw him under the bus and get him time in the big house.

We have all seen officers lie in support of fellow officers charged with stuff. This sounds like it is just the opposite and will go a long way to get a conviction.

Well, those officers can easily be undermined by other officers based on the statements they made. If they were lying, it seems like there would be other officers that could attest to that fact. What’s the point in them lying?

 

[nonobaddog]

Are you pretending to be naive?

 

[Denny347]

My guess is that he is convicted of their version of manslaughter and get sentenced to 2-7yrs. The prosecution will not likely be able to prove that his actions caused the death. Chauvin's biggest mistake was not to re-assess the situation. If he had moved him to a "recovery" position immediately and he still died, we'd be having a different conversation here. But he didn't and is answering for it.

 

[Ark]

My guess is that he is convicted of their version of manslaughter and get sentenced to 2-7yrs. The prosecution will not likely be able to prove that his actions caused the death. Chauvin's biggest mistake was not to re-assess the situation. If he had moved him to a "recovery" position immediately and he still died, we'd be having a different conversation here. But he didn't and is answering for it.

I don't know how you get manslaughter from that when we have SCOTUS precedent that police do not have a duty to save your life.

Manslaughter is unintentionally causing death, not failure to prevent it happening from another cause.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I don't know how you get manslaughter from that when we have SCOTUS precedent that police do not have a duty to save your life.

Manslaughter is unintentionally causing death, not failure to prevent it happening from another cause.

I think Denny is accounting for the officialdom's intense motivation to sacrifice Chauvin to Molech to appease the mob.

 

[Leadeye]

The question is will a manslaughter conviction be enough to satisfy the angry people.

 

[IndyDave1776]

The question is will a manslaughter conviction be enough to satisfy the angry people.

Probably not. I am not even sure that throwing him out of the courthouse along with a five-stranded hemp rope would truly satisfy them.

 

[nonobaddog]

I think Denny is accounting for the officialdom's intense motivation to sacrifice Chauvin to Molech to appease the mob.

I agree. The corruption in Minneapolis runs deep and wide. With Ellison as the Attorney General and his antifa supporting son dominant on the Minneapolis city council it would not surprise me if the whole judicial system there is tainted.
Minneapolis wanted to get rid of the police before, now they will just get rid of one or four at a time - probably to be replaced by Karen the transvestite antifa terrorist with a degree in vegan socialism studies.

I don't know what the outcome will be but the non-judicial aspects are sure piling up.

 

[nonobaddog]

The question is will a manslaughter conviction be enough to satisfy the angry people.

Even a manslaughter conviction might be a death sentence because of the racist gangs in prison.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Even a manslaughter conviction might be a death sentence because of the racist gangs in prison.

If push comes to shove he may end up having to burn his good behavior time by giving a CO a face full of fist to get put in solitary.

 

[1DOWN4UP]

If they hang him or not......the Xhit hole will still burnnnnnnn.




I heard in the beginning that the procedure he used was in the police manual.

 

[nonobaddog]

If they hang him or not......the Xhit hole will still burnnnnnnn.

Well, 'tis the season.

 

[SwikLS]

 

[Ark]

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For now. Last summer there were groups doing long distance "marches", aka riots, through white suburbs and rural areas specifically to **** with people who thought they were exempt because they lived outside the city.

 

[SwikLS]

For now. Last summer there were groups doing long distance "marches", aka riots, through white suburbs and rural areas specifically to **** with people who thought they were exempt because they lived outside the city.

I think you might be missing the point of the meme. Its saying that this has happened many times in history. So when you reply with your "boogity, boogity, boogity...they were marching through suburbs last year!", I am unphased by your fear porn.

 

[Tombs]

My guess is that he is convicted of their version of manslaughter and get sentenced to 2-7yrs. The prosecution will not likely be able to prove that his actions caused the death. Chauvin's biggest mistake was not to re-assess the situation. If he had moved him to a "recovery" position immediately and he still died, we'd be having a different conversation here. But he didn't and is answering for it.

Can someone that size still be restrained from a recovery position?

 

[Denny347]

I don't know how you get manslaughter from that when we have SCOTUS precedent that police do not have a duty to save your life.

Manslaughter is unintentionally causing death, not failure to prevent it happening from another cause.

Depraved indifference/reckless homicide/ or something like that in their state law. Please do not cite what you do not understand. An officer certainly does have a duty to protect someone in their custody. That is considered a "special relationship". This site has a good explanation to this idea. https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/l...aw enforcement,transport and while in holding.

 

[Denny347]

Can someone that size still be restrained from a recovery position?

It's a "recovery" position but obviously their hands are still handcuffed to the rear. Essentially getting them on their side. Quite frankly, his heart was likely failing the entire time and caused him to feel as if he was having trouble breathing. I had a prisoner say the same thing to me and died. My case was argued to the 7th Cir and the plaintiffs petitioned the SCOTUS to hear it. It's been over 5 years since that incident and I've studied quite a bit about in-custody deaths since then. Teaching our recruits about it.